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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:42 pm 
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tommi wrote:
Just thinking….

only change this week…Boyd for Ed…?


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So Boyd as Sub?
Is that a change per se?
Can we call it a 7/8ths change?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:51 pm 
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Yeah not sure….

i feel like Boyd would fit better in the team…!

not sure who will be sub though…!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:56 pm 
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Cmon Tom that was comedy gold...


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:04 pm 
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Ooops….

i missed it Paddy…i mean it’s clear as day
NOW…!

although i did fail Meth….!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:05 am 
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Ed might stay as sub. that way if we lose a mid to a hamstring in the 1st qtr we have some cover.

boyd will come in for one of the other guys, imo...

possibly fog. fisher plays fog's role (its been tried and failed) and boyd goes back. or, boyd plays his normal role, fish moves into Doc's role and doc plays more mid or wing? i feel like they'll shuffle things around a little to make way for boyd rather than any like for like replacements.


a person with knowledge on facebook said Kemp has a corkie in his ass. so it's not even his hammy. so that's good if true.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:22 am 
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Boyd should be ahead of Fisher as a backman with a man to mind because he can tackle and make it stick; sometimes sticks too long and ends with suspension.
Boyd can kick both sides and kick better than Fisher.

I can see Boyd on Pickett, but I can't see Fisher on Pickett.

I can't see Fisher being dropped so Fisher should be sub.

If Fisher is dropped, FMD, Vossy is serious about his ratings of players, like Dow has found out.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:27 am 
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Interesting to hear that Harry Walsh Gov, even Kennedy would play this week if it was Finals, but will be held back this week.

We need to win this week to help us prepare for Finals in the last 2 rounds, rather than freaking out for a win like last year.

I'm guessing Harry Walsh and Gov back next week and Cerra and Kennedy will be back for last round.

I wonder what's happening with Jack Silvagni. If he doesnt play anymore H&A games, and Pitto and TDK hold their own, I wonder how contract negotiations will go.

Teams announced in less than 10 hours.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:02 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Interesting to hear that Harry Walsh Gov, even Kennedy would play this week if it was Finals, but will be held back this week.



Where did you hear that?

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Braithy wrote:
grundy is a horrible forward ... so this is good.
Agreed, Grundy as a forward not so good, but I suspect if he plays it'll be more ruck time and push Gawn forward more.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:57 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Boyd should be ahead of Fisher as a backman with a man to mind because he can tackle and make it stick; sometimes sticks too long and ends with suspension.
Boyd can kick both sides and kick better than Fisher.

I can see Boyd on Pickett, but I can't see Fisher on Pickett.

I can't see Fisher being dropped so Fisher should be sub.

If Fisher is dropped, FMD, Vossy is serious about his ratings of players, like Dow has found out.


Fisher isn't getting dropped and he isn't sub either. Just played the best game of his career and got coaches votes. Went at about 80% efficiency by foot and had second most metres gained. Sort of game Boyd couldn't have in his wildest dreams.
Fish was good the entire game including the first half when aints brought the heat big time. 50+ tackles in first half alone (some teams don't have that many in an entire game), pressure rating above 200 which is elite and doesn't get much higher.
Yes, he can be frustrating but people need to park the Fisher hate for a minute and realise that players do not get dropped after performances like that.
I don't mind Boyd but he is not a walk up start. Missed 3 games of footy. Needs to come back via VFL and play 4 quarters.
No change to the 22 and Ed stays as sub.
Doesn't mean Fish is now a walk up start either. The pressure stays on him to maintain that sort of level as it does on a number of other players currently in the side. We're getting some key players back so those in the side need to keep performing to stay in. Fish more than performed so he stays in. Simple.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:09 am 
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Fogarty may have been a little down on stats last week but he's been instrumental in our turnaround this year. I'd be very surprised if he was dropped for this game.

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Braithy wrote:
a person with knowledge on facebook said Kemp has a corkie in his ass.




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:14 am 
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rhino27 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Boyd should be ahead of Fisher as a backman with a man to mind because he can tackle and make it stick; sometimes sticks too long and ends with suspension.
Boyd can kick both sides and kick better than Fisher.

I can see Boyd on Pickett, but I can't see Fisher on Pickett.

I can't see Fisher being dropped so Fisher should be sub.

If Fisher is dropped, FMD, Vossy is serious about his ratings of players, like Dow has found out.


Fisher isn't getting dropped and he isn't sub either. Just played the best game of his career and got coaches votes. Went at about 80% efficiency by foot and had second most metres gained. Sort of game Boyd couldn't have in his wildest dreams.
Fish was good the entire game including the first half when aints brought the heat big time. 50+ tackles in first half alone (some teams don't have that many in an entire game), pressure rating above 200 which is elite and doesn't get much higher.
Yes, he can be frustrating but people need to park the Fisher hate for a minute and realise that players do not get dropped after performances like that.
I don't mind Boyd but he is not a walk up start. Missed 3 games of footy. Needs to come back via VFL and play 4 quarters.
No change to the 22 and Ed stays as sub.
Doesn't mean Fish is now a walk up start either. The pressure stays on him to maintain that sort of level as it does on a number of other players currently in the side. We're getting some key players back so those in the side need to keep performing to stay in. Fish more than performed so he stays in. Simple.


I don’t read ‘hate’ in BB’s observations re Fish versus Boyd. More the point that Boyd may be better one on one with someone like Pickett. And I’d agree that Boyd is a ferocious tackler. Much more so than Fish


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:15 am 
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FYI, the Matildas game will be on the MCG big screen before our match

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:17 am 
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london blue wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Boyd should be ahead of Fisher as a backman with a man to mind because he can tackle and make it stick; sometimes sticks too long and ends with suspension.
Boyd can kick both sides and kick better than Fisher.

I can see Boyd on Pickett, but I can't see Fisher on Pickett.

I can't see Fisher being dropped so Fisher should be sub.

If Fisher is dropped, FMD, Vossy is serious about his ratings of players, like Dow has found out.


Fisher isn't getting dropped and he isn't sub either. Just played the best game of his career and got coaches votes. Went at about 80% efficiency by foot and had second most metres gained. Sort of game Boyd couldn't have in his wildest dreams.
Fish was good the entire game including the first half when aints brought the heat big time. 50+ tackles in first half alone (some teams don't have that many in an entire game), pressure rating above 200 which is elite and doesn't get much higher.
Yes, he can be frustrating but people need to park the Fisher hate for a minute and realise that players do not get dropped after performances like that.
I don't mind Boyd but he is not a walk up start. Missed 3 games of footy. Needs to come back via VFL and play 4 quarters.
No change to the 22 and Ed stays as sub.
Doesn't mean Fish is now a walk up start either. The pressure stays on him to maintain that sort of level as it does on a number of other players currently in the side. We're getting some key players back so those in the side need to keep performing to stay in. Fish more than performed so he stays in. Simple.


I don’t read ‘hate’ in BB’s observations re Fish versus Boyd. More the point that Boyd may be better one on one with someone like Pickett. And I’d agree that Boyd is a ferocious tackler. Much more so than Fish


I hope Fisher proves me wrong, but I just feel that he is a one trick pony, and it won’t take much effort for a good team to shut him down as he seems to be a one sided downhill skier. I’d like to be surprised and see him tackling hard and pin pointing right foot passes this weekend.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:19 am 
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london blue wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Boyd should be ahead of Fisher as a backman with a man to mind because he can tackle and make it stick; sometimes sticks too long and ends with suspension.
Boyd can kick both sides and kick better than Fisher.

I can see Boyd on Pickett, but I can't see Fisher on Pickett.

I can't see Fisher being dropped so Fisher should be sub.

If Fisher is dropped, FMD, Vossy is serious about his ratings of players, like Dow has found out.


Fisher isn't getting dropped and he isn't sub either. Just played the best game of his career and got coaches votes. Went at about 80% efficiency by foot and had second most metres gained. Sort of game Boyd couldn't have in his wildest dreams.
Fish was good the entire game including the first half when aints brought the heat big time. 50+ tackles in first half alone (some teams don't have that many in an entire game), pressure rating above 200 which is elite and doesn't get much higher.
Yes, he can be frustrating but people need to park the Fisher hate for a minute and realise that players do not get dropped after performances like that.
I don't mind Boyd but he is not a walk up start. Missed 3 games of footy. Needs to come back via VFL and play 4 quarters.
No change to the 22 and Ed stays as sub.
Doesn't mean Fish is now a walk up start either. The pressure stays on him to maintain that sort of level as it does on a number of other players currently in the side. We're getting some key players back so those in the side need to keep performing to stay in. Fish more than performed so he stays in. Simple.


I don’t read ‘hate’ in BB’s observations re Fish versus Boyd. More the point that Boyd may be better one on one with someone like Pickett. And I’d agree that Boyd is a ferocious tackler. Much more so than Fish


The hate bit wasn't directed at him solely. It seems that Fish has the reputation of TC whipping boy and people will always call for him to be dropped even when he was amongst the best on ground.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:44 am 
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rhino27 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Boyd should be ahead of Fisher as a backman with a man to mind because he can tackle and make it stick; sometimes sticks too long and ends with suspension.
Boyd can kick both sides and kick better than Fisher.

I can see Boyd on Pickett, but I can't see Fisher on Pickett.

I can't see Fisher being dropped so Fisher should be sub.

If Fisher is dropped, FMD, Vossy is serious about his ratings of players, like Dow has found out.


Fisher isn't getting dropped and he isn't sub either. Just played the best game of his career and got coaches votes. Went at about 80% efficiency by foot and had second most metres gained. Sort of game Boyd couldn't have in his wildest dreams.
Fish was good the entire game including the first half when aints brought the heat big time. 50+ tackles in first half alone (some teams don't have that many in an entire game), pressure rating above 200 which is elite and doesn't get much higher.
Yes, he can be frustrating but people need to park the Fisher hate for a minute and realise that players do not get dropped after performances like that.
I don't mind Boyd but he is not a walk up start. Missed 3 games of footy. Needs to come back via VFL and play 4 quarters.
No change to the 22 and Ed stays as sub.
Doesn't mean Fish is now a walk up start either. The pressure stays on him to maintain that sort of level as it does on a number of other players currently in the side. We're getting some key players back so those in the side need to keep performing to stay in. Fish more than performed so he stays in. Simple.


boyd is more a man-on defender. accountable to the end. fish is more like saad - free license to roam and rebound.

the boyd and fish comparisons aren't legit bcos they play different roles.

boyd will come straight in and stay at home and wear melksham like a sock. athletically the only guy we have who could go to koz is saad. but he looks sore and he doesn't defend in that lock down role

if there's no 3rd tall for marchbank, boyd will replace him.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:48 am 
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Absolutely the query on Fish is tackling.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:06 am 
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Sources: Carlton will NOT have major ins when selection is announced tonight for Melbourne on Saturday, with a longer term view being taken to injuries for obvious reasons. The Blues will have up to 6 significant returns between Gold Coast next week & GWS the following week.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:25 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Sources: Carlton will NOT have major ins when selection is announced tonight for Melbourne on Saturday, with a longer term view being taken to injuries for obvious reasons. The Blues will have up to 6 significant returns between Gold Coast next week & GWS the following week.


Voss pretty much confirmed Boyd would be the player returning this week in his post match presser

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