robertbb wrote:
kezza wrote:
WOW wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Nathan Buckley thinks our turnover game hasn't changed, our defense is a little better, and we aren't scoring as much from stoppages. He thinks we are about where he had us going into the season, missing out on the 8. So based off that, he thought we would tread water, which translated means not improve. Seems about right.
I thought we would sneak into the eight
I don’t think we will now
Too many other teams seem to have improved
Early in the season so a fair bit to play out
Agree with this.
Other teams have improved and gone past us.
Pretty depressing that after so many crap years and a constant change of coaches we still may not have got it right.
While I am no expert but wouldn't moving the ball quicker stop our forward 50 being so congested?
It is pretty frustrating watching us chip the ball sideways and backwards while the opposition is flooding our forward line. If the ball is turned over then we cannot get back quickly enough to stop them scoring.
Every team chips sideways to "build the ball up". It's part of the modern game and the trigger for it is when the oppositions defence is set up well behind the ball. Moving sideways and backwards spreads their middle of field defence a bit more and opens the ground up for a deeper entry, ultimately (deeper F50 entries are easier to defend - the ground is smaller and you can press up to lock the ball in more easily).
Where it's breaking down is we don't have the foot skills to hit targets, nor do we have the leg speed to run and carry, to get those deeper entries. What ends up happening is the long bomb gets triggered too far out from home, with a contest usually around half back - somewhere around the arc and the centre square. It's a dangerous part of the ground - if we don't mark or get a stoppage, the opponent runs it out with ease and scores out the back.
I think Voss would love to see us run and gun, but he knows we're not equipped to A) score heavily, consistently nor B) defend if we do turn it over (and lord knows, we turn the pill over more often than the Olinda Ferny Creek special team).
We are not equipped to score heavily?
Really???
We have two of the most envied forwards in the league.
Sorry. I don't buy your summation. I don't think Voss likes to run and gun.
We have as much overall talent as st kilda or port or most...but Voss hasn't brought out the best in our players.
He's given some convoluted over worked plan that makes our boys miserable, lacks any dare or flair and is stultifying to watch.
I've never felt so depressed watching even when we barely won those earlier games.
You can make excuses all you like but unless Vossy wakes up and listens to some pretty good feedback...across the media..never mind supporters, we are going nowhere. It's miserable overworked footy.
Hoping for change tonite.
Voss has got this horribly wrong. ( imho).