Rowston is Northern academy, fairly certain Walter is too. Madden I don't believe is, Keeler definitely isn't, but fall around that late 30s/early 40 projection, which are probably unlikely to have a huge impact - unless our pick falls really low.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/12202 ... s-for-2023

I have no problem with giving Cunners one last shot at making it.

7 years for 40 games. Big Call

In the same way Stocker (and Setterfield?) is arguably a bit unlucky, Cunners is arguably a bit lucky.

It would be a bonus if Cunners comes good because he does have some attributes we need. I’m not holding my breath though - he has been very injury prone unfortunately.

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

That's a decent leap there BBW.
How the @#$%&! you came to that conclusion from the first paragraph is creative at best.
FWIW, Buckenara has no idea at all and his lists over recent years have proven that viewpoint. I have more faith in the TC's community assessing our players over Bucky.
Throw his list in the bin where it belongs.

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Its true ... slightly emotive and exaggerated.

I was trying to make the point that some decisions have been made which IMO make no sense (trying to refrain from expletives ) ... and I guess what I am concerned about is the next crazy move ... hence my throwaway line.

It feels like we continually shoot ourselves in the foot.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

I'm not sure any decision made at present is shooting ourselves in the foot. That might come but decisions to date appear reasonable.

How many of the club’s decisions to delist or move on players have turned out to be wrong?

People were losing their shit over the SPS trade but…

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Ya know….

the last three times I’ve ordered Pad Thai from
my local Thai restaurant…have been pretty
pox…!

on the weekend we ordered in Thai…!

i couldn’t decide what to eat…went with
the Pad Thai…!

it was pox…!

what the %#@& do i know…!


kindest regards tommi

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Stocker will be a very good player IMO ... probably for Essendon* ... and we did not even get a pick for him.
Setterfield just starting to blossom ... who knows what will happen there.
Dow ... it would not surprise me if we just delisted him.

I guess my point is that we were not far away this year. Injuries crippled us. No need for a cleanout.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

You’ve answered my question with three examples where we don’t yet know the outcome.

That’s not the question.

Going back over all our list managers…

How many players did we move on who went on to better things?

There are some.

Eddie Betts is the most obvious example. A complete @#$%&! up by the people running the club at the time who by the way are not currently running the club.

Mitch Robinson’s had an ok career though he’s no world beater.

Kane Lambert is another loss but we didn’t even know he was one of ours really.

If you look at the overall picture the ones who were sent on their way didn’t amount to much.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Touhy's been very good for Geelong. But I'm not sure how much say we had in him going

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#DonTheStash

Totally give you Tuohy.

Next?

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Shaun Grigg, Sauce Jacobs… Nick Holman doesn’t stink, but had to work at it.

I wouldn’t say Waite & Jeffy played their best footy after they left, but they booted 80 goals between them in 2015 (make it 145 with Eddie) and we had to suffer a dull drill bit like Andrejs @#$%&! Everitt.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

We didn't choose to delist or move on Jacobs or Grigg. They both made those decisions.
Waite was inconsistent, his body was failing him and he wanted a big money, multi year deal. He only played more than 16 games once out of his last 10 seasons and was averaging around 12.5 games per season in his last 6 years at Carlton. Undisciplined and unreliable. The club made the absolute correct decision IMHO.

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I get your point GWS but there have been enough players in the last decade who played well after being delisted or traded to make a case imo.
We needed them, and without them we fell in a hole.
I wouldn't rate what Carlton was doing too highly from 2015-2021.
I recall the years where 6 or so discarded ex players were kicking bigger scores than the Carlton team week in week out.

I missed Mitch Robinson when I saw what he was doing and what we were missing when he was kicked out by Malthouse.

The moment he walked in the door at Lions in 2015 he earned respect.
He had a great career at the Lions between 2015-2021.
He was in the leadership group. I'm talking leader who led the team into Finals from 2019.
Would easily have made our team in those years. He would've been one of our top 10 players imo.

Stocker had been getting sniffs from other club(s), as do many of our young, highly rated fringe players, and whatever he did to warrant instant dismissal is something we should judge when we know all the facts. He obviously rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, not just onfield, but obviously off field.

IMO, fan favourites like Stocker, like Silvagni are too slow for Finals footy and just depth players.

We need to keep improving our list. We all knew with the plethora of first round draft picks and first round imports that some were going to slip out of our hands. As long as its not the Walsh, Weitering, McKay, Curnow and Cripps types, I'm happy.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Anyone else heard anything about Harry signing his contract extension yesterday?

I just received a text with that news ... see it anywhere on SEN or FOX or HS ...haven't checked Reddit

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Fair point from SOS, but it doesn't explain attitude.

“I think he’s had three coaches in four years, so from a development point of view I’d question that.”

Stephen Silvagni has firmly defended Liam Stocker following Blues delisting.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/09/14/silvagni-firmly-defends-stocker-following-blues-delisting/



https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1569855831327506435

I agree he makes a good point.

But like you said, nothing about his attitude, nor does go into detail about his foot passing: I'm talking about kicking anything other than bombs down the line. Then there is issue with his pace, and endurance....I guess he does mention an interrupted preseason, covid, mental health, concussion ...yeah yeah.

Ww know he's tough but was he going to make it as an AFL footballer? SOS isnt going to be the one to stick up for the club or belittle his choice.

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Apparently the next episode is going to be him talking about how good Finbar O'Dwyer, Harrison Macreadie and Cam Polson are going at Williamstown.