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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:30 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Jeez , for some reason i have got the heebie jeebies about this game . We should really kick there brains in but for some reason i am nervous . Come up with something really brilliant to calm me down boys .......................


Because deep down you know we aren't that good ?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:31 pm 
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I think we need to have the same attitude we did in the WC game - that is go out hard and fkn hammer them

Issue is why didn't we bring that attitude to the Cats and Saints games !


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:43 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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Setters in for Hayes.
Gov for Plow.
Pitto back in but in terms of team balance not sure who for.
Josh Kelly will miss for them



SOS needs a rest.

He is struggling out there. Not moving freely


Be careful. I suggested that last week and there was uproar. :lol:

FWIW, I was filthy on the night (first loss I've attended this year!) but I'm glad it happened. Geelong are playing super footy. All the indicators will tell you they are the best team in it the past couple of months by a street. Personally I think they've played their hand and they're challenging the other clubs to better it. Blicavs will take the bigger bodied mids and Atkins will also play as a defensive mid leaving Guthrie and Dangerfield to provide the offensive power.
The challenge is there for Cripps, Kennedy, Hewitt, Cerra and Walsh to come up with solutions.

The other challenge is obviously Cameron. Personally I'd give them back a bit of their own. Put a stopper on him that will put him off his game. He doesn't handle physical attention and niggle so I'd get Cottrell and run with him wherever he goes and to aggravate him at every opportunity. If it's OK for Atkins to do it, I can't see a problem. Cameron will lose his cool and get reported inside 2 quarters.
He's not strong overhead so I'd risk a smaller runner on him.

Our players have shown this season that they can go to school on our deficiencies and will work hard to rectify them. Playing Freo a second time is a perfect example.
Cripps needs to shake off Blicavs. Even if he goes to Atkins at the stoppages and frees up a Kennedy or Hewitt, it will be a win. Let's see how long Geelong persist if we have a 2 on 1 at every stoppage.
Harry needs to pick up the bottom lip and man up. If he can't beat the kid for pace, beat him for workrate or strength. He wants the lace out passes all the time but he needs to be better than that.
Take the kid up the ground and lose him on the way back or dig your heels in and outmuscle him. At least get the ball to ground instead of giving up, FFS.

I didn't like Cerra the wing. His pace was an advantage we needed in the middle. I'd bring in Pitto and play TDK as a forward/ruck. Challenge the opposition defenders more.
Let's see how Geelong react to having a 203cm mobile ruck in the forward line when we play them again. As I said last week, it may force them to play Blicavs back if we can get enough supply. Be proactive.

Lastly, give the VC a kick up the arse. Weiters was poor last week and he regressed to Teague style defence. Allow your opponent a leg rope and then drop off to fill space when they win the ball. @#$%&! that. Be accountable and beat your man in every contest.
Don't lose heart. It's good to be challenged and there's no better time to get a reality check and a taste of what's to come.

So its Pitto and McGovern in for JSOS and Hayes. Put Doc on the wing.

Plowman Weitering Stocker
McGovern Young Saad
Doc Cripps Cottrell
Fish Harry Walsh
TDK Charlie Durdin

Pitto George Cerra
Kennedy (mid rotation) Newman (Back rotation) Owies/Motlop (Forward rotation) Newnes (wing rotation)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:10 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Jeez , for some reason i have got the heebie jeebies about this game . We should really kick there brains in but for some reason i am nervous . Come up with something really brilliant to calm me down boys .......................


Because deep down you know we aren't that good ?


We're good enough to beat GWS at home ffs.

Seriously the way people have chucked their toys out of the cot on here after going down to the most in-form team and stand-alone premiership favourite, pull ya heads in!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:26 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Jeez , for some reason i have got the heebie jeebies about this game . We should really kick there brains in but for some reason i am nervous . Come up with something really brilliant to calm me down boys .......................


Because deep down you know we aren't that good ?


We're good enough to beat GWS at home ffs.

Seriously the way people have chucked their toys out of the cot on here after going down to the most in-form team and stand-alone premiership favourite, pull ya heads in!


Wow, steady on !

This isn't black and white win or lose against Geelong.

And each person throwing toys around as you so eloquently put it will have different reasons for their frustration.

Personally I am frustrated we go WLWLWLWL and that in a 5 goal loss 2 of those goals should have been prevented by having someone mark Balaclavas (or whatever his frikkin name is) in the goal square and someone going up in the ruck against Hawkins (SOS or JW).


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:05 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
Setters in for Hayes.
Gov for Plow.
Pitto back in but in terms of team balance not sure who for.
Josh Kelly will miss for them



SOS needs a rest.

He is struggling out there. Not moving freely


Be careful. I suggested that last week and there was uproar. :lol:

FWIW, I was filthy on the night (first loss I've attended this year!) but I'm glad it happened. Geelong are playing super footy. All the indicators will tell you they are the best team in it the past couple of months by a street. Personally I think they've played their hand and they're challenging the other clubs to better it. Blicavs will take the bigger bodied mids and Atkins will also play as a defensive mid leaving Guthrie and Dangerfield to provide the offensive power.
The challenge is there for Cripps, Kennedy, Hewitt, Cerra and Walsh to come up with solutions.

The other challenge is obviously Cameron. Personally I'd give them back a bit of their own. Put a stopper on him that will put him off his game. He doesn't handle physical attention and niggle so I'd get Cottrell and run with him wherever he goes and to aggravate him at every opportunity. If it's OK for Atkins to do it, I can't see a problem. Cameron will lose his cool and get reported inside 2 quarters.
He's not strong overhead so I'd risk a smaller runner on him.

Our players have shown this season that they can go to school on our deficiencies and will work hard to rectify them. Playing Freo a second time is a perfect example.
Cripps needs to shake off Blicavs. Even if he goes to Atkins at the stoppages and frees up a Kennedy or Hewitt, it will be a win. Let's see how long Geelong persist if we have a 2 on 1 at every stoppage.
Harry needs to pick up the bottom lip and man up. If he can't beat the kid for pace, beat him for workrate or strength. He wants the lace out passes all the time but he needs to be better than that.
Take the kid up the ground and lose him on the way back or dig your heels in and outmuscle him. At least get the ball to ground instead of giving up, FFS.

I didn't like Cerra the wing. His pace was an advantage we needed in the middle. I'd bring in Pitto and play TDK as a forward/ruck. Challenge the opposition defenders more.
Let's see how Geelong react to having a 203cm mobile ruck in the forward line when we play them again. As I said last week, it may force them to play Blicavs back if we can get enough supply. Be proactive.

Lastly, give the VC a kick up the arse. Weiters was poor last week and he regressed to Teague style defence. Allow your opponent a leg rope and then drop off to fill space when they win the ball. @#$%&! that. Be accountable and beat your man in every contest.
Don't lose heart. It's good to be challenged and there's no better time to get a reality check and a taste of what's to come.

So its Pitto and McGovern in for JSOS and Hayes. Put Doc on the wing.

Plowman Weitering Stocker
McGovern Young Saad
Doc Cripps Cottrell
Fish Harry Walsh
TDK Charlie Durdin

Pitto George Cerra
Kennedy (mid rotation) Newman (Back rotation) Owies/Motlop (Forward rotation) Newnes (wing rotation)


Once again a terrific post from BV and agree with just about all of - the only thing I Qn and maybe it is me and I need to go to SpecSavers but I think the talk that Cerra is quick is a bit off the mark... he actually looks quite a slow player for me... thoughts?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:25 pm 
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Good onya " Vain ". Lotsa good stuff in there that makes a whole lot of sense .................i'm with you , they are very beatable . Good side but not a champion side .

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The GIANTS will be forced to make at least two changes for Sunday’s clash with Carlton at Marvel Stadium with Josh Kelly and Connor Idun both ruled out with injury.

Star midfielder Lachie Whitfield is a test for Sunday’s match after missing last week’s game with a minor hip flexor injury.

Defender Adam Kennedy is also a test, but expected to be available if he clears his final concussion protocols after missing round 18.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:40 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
Setters in for Hayes.
Gov for Plow.
Pitto back in but in terms of team balance not sure who for.
Josh Kelly will miss for them



SOS needs a rest.

He is struggling out there. Not moving freely


Be careful. I suggested that last week and there was uproar. :lol:

FWIW, I was filthy on the night (first loss I've attended this year!) but I'm glad it happened. Geelong are playing super footy. All the indicators will tell you they are the best team in it the past couple of months by a street. Personally I think they've played their hand and they're challenging the other clubs to better it. Blicavs will take the bigger bodied mids and Atkins will also play as a defensive mid leaving Guthrie and Dangerfield to provide the offensive power.
The challenge is there for Cripps, Kennedy, Hewitt, Cerra and Walsh to come up with solutions.

The other challenge is obviously Cameron. Personally I'd give them back a bit of their own. Put a stopper on him that will put him off his game. He doesn't handle physical attention and niggle so I'd get Cottrell and run with him wherever he goes and to aggravate him at every opportunity. If it's OK for Atkins to do it, I can't see a problem. Cameron will lose his cool and get reported inside 2 quarters.
He's not strong overhead so I'd risk a smaller runner on him.

Our players have shown this season that they can go to school on our deficiencies and will work hard to rectify them. Playing Freo a second time is a perfect example.
Cripps needs to shake off Blicavs. Even if he goes to Atkins at the stoppages and frees up a Kennedy or Hewitt, it will be a win. Let's see how long Geelong persist if we have a 2 on 1 at every stoppage.
Harry needs to pick up the bottom lip and man up. If he can't beat the kid for pace, beat him for workrate or strength. He wants the lace out passes all the time but he needs to be better than that.
Take the kid up the ground and lose him on the way back or dig your heels in and outmuscle him. At least get the ball to ground instead of giving up, FFS.

I didn't like Cerra the wing. His pace was an advantage we needed in the middle. I'd bring in Pitto and play TDK as a forward/ruck. Challenge the opposition defenders more.
Let's see how Geelong react to having a 203cm mobile ruck in the forward line when we play them again. As I said last week, it may force them to play Blicavs back if we can get enough supply. Be proactive.

Lastly, give the VC a kick up the arse. Weiters was poor last week and he regressed to Teague style defence. Allow your opponent a leg rope and then drop off to fill space when they win the ball. @#$%&! that. Be accountable and beat your man in every contest.
Don't lose heart. It's good to be challenged and there's no better time to get a reality check and a taste of what's to come.

So its Pitto and McGovern in for JSOS and Hayes. Put Doc on the wing.

Plowman Weitering Stocker
McGovern Young Saad
Doc Cripps Cottrell
Fish Harry Walsh
TDK Charlie Durdin

Pitto George Cerra
Kennedy (mid rotation) Newman (Back rotation) Owies/Motlop (Forward rotation) Newnes (wing rotation)


This post is spot on BV. :thumbsup:

JSOS definitely needs a rest and I reckon TDK could do with a few games of not being the No.1 ruckman after shouldering the responsibility for the past 10 weeks.

Let's get a bit more cohesion in our centre clearance and stoppage work and get it down to the triple towers. They will cause a lot of headaches for GWS.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:51 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Jeez , for some reason i have got the heebie jeebies about this game . We should really kick there brains in but for some reason i am nervous . Come up with something really brilliant to calm me down boys .......................


Because deep down you know we aren't that good ?


We're good enough to beat GWS at home ffs.

Seriously the way people have chucked their toys out of the cot on here after going down to the most in-form team and stand-alone premiership favourite, pull ya heads in!


Thanks for agreeing with me Trav .

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:02 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Taking my 10 y.o. son. He has a Charlie's Crew membership.

Do I have to somehow find a way of booking for 2 on the app?

I am not sure.
I had a similar issue earlier in the year. I have a 7 year old grandson who I signed up as a member when he was born. My daughter and I were going to take him to a game and we had no idea what to do. Luckily he said he didn't want to go after all. Ring the club and they will be able to help.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:31 pm 
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/802937/medi ... y-list-r19

GWS are in a bit of a state. About time we faced a team with a worse bill of health. Brisbane Bears just have the 5 players listed as "test" and are expected to have a full squad to choose from. Can you Adam and Eve it? Pricks.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:33 pm 
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rhino27 wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Carlton will not challenge Hayes two match suspension

I think that is WRONG


So do I
Gotta stick up for our player when they are wronged.
This was a wrong decision/suspension.


I’m a huge rusted on supporter and a Member since the 80’s.

I haven’t bothered righting the wrongs of the club’s metrics and failed systems that don’t recognise (or know) my time as a Member, but if they Fuch around with my kids, watch out Blues: family comes first. Their consecutive years of Membership (and loyalty means a lot to them).

If we are all Bluebaggers, then that includes the players too. If we are all “Bound by Blue”, then we should all be represented equally by the club. Collectively we mean more than as individuals.

I am so disappointed with the club for letting Michael “ Neander” Christian’s bias get off without a peep. It’s poor and does not represent our clubs Mantra. I am still thinking about how Ibwill show my protest against the club for this obvious failure. As for the club, see what the media says about this. Start with our own Andre Maher.

The club has failed its players and it’s supporters. I am ropeable. :sad:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:33 pm 
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BV made a comment about Geel playing their hand and backing themselves to not have other teams 'better it'

Agree

I am not going to debate all the stats that tell us Geel have been the best performed side lately BUT my gut feel is that they have peaked early

I may be in the minority but I refuse to accept the fact Geel won just because they're more matured, well drilled and overall more skillful...I freaking well knew that before the game...I didn't need a loss to confirm it or use it as an excuse

Prior to the game, I believed that if brought something between average and our best, it would be a close game that could go either way

We were deplorable, and I'm not including plays where Geel pressured us...we were deplorable all over the ground, including the coaches box with or without pressure

Our forwards, apart from Charlie were insipid
Our defenders couldn't adjust to any moves involving taking Weitering out of the game and rattled themselves
Our mids continue to be a problem and were soundly beaten by theirs...was it effort, set ups, poor disposal coming out of defence or going I50
Our gameplan reduced the G to kardinia Park...rarely transitioned on the 45 and widening the ground

Geelong have peaked.

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Hey Cee Kay….

can’t help you with that man…!


kindest regards tommi







so here’s something mildly interesting…!

does anyone ever write something…then go
away for a minute…and when you come
back you realise what you were writing was
crap…so you just delete it…?

and no one EVER knows…!


well the opening post is a result of NOT deleting…!


actually…now I’m thinking about deleting this
whole thing again…!


if you delete a post in a forest…does anyone ever
read it…!



nahhh…I wouldn’t do that to yas….i think you should
all know the severity of my iss—ewwwew…!


every day folk…………………..every day…!










every day…!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:40 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
I'd keep Motlop in, he's developing nicely and has form. Giving Durdin a spell is a good idea but I'd want another small forward to take his place rather than a repurposed mid or wing, so I'd keep him in until Martin or Owies is ready.

I seem to recall Plow getting towelled by Toby Greene last time, or is my memory failing me again? If I'm right, I'd consider a return for Gov if fit. Not exactly an obvious matchup, I'm thinking more of a fight fire with fire approach, make Toby put in a defensive shift to stop Gov's rebound skills.

Setters and LOB for Hayes and Cottrell I can go with. Cottrell as medisub.



Cottrell is growing as a footballer and from what I saw on Saturday miles ahead of most that represented our jumper in following coach instructions (and I’m assuming that), because players reacted to his directions and organising. Showed maturity along with the pace he has others don’t.

I’m with Keoghan we are one paced and we need the likes of Camporeale…oops..I mean Cottrell. Im a fan

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:33 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Taking my 10 y.o. son. He has a Charlie's Crew membership.

Do I have to somehow find a way of booking for 2 on the app?


Great stuff CK.

I love these bonding moments with our kids.

I can’t help you with digital ticketing, because I’m not paid the big bucks the AFL Commissioners to fix their stuff ups. Not because there’s so many, but it’s their job. I can’t help they are incompetent but happy to collect their inflated salaries and bonuses.

ENJOY

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:38 pm 
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Why wouldn’t you at least challenge it? FMD we just take it as it’s given.
It's confusing....
Maybe it's a 'we control what we can control and ignore the outside forces' mantra.....
Can't think of anything else??

Go Blues

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:52 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
Setters in for Hayes.
Gov for Plow.
Pitto back in but in terms of team balance not sure who for.
Josh Kelly will miss for them



SOS needs a rest.

He is struggling out there. Not moving freely


Be careful. I suggested that last week and there was uproar. :lol:

FWIW, I was filthy on the night (first loss I've attended this year!) but I'm glad it happened. Geelong are playing super footy. All the indicators will tell you they are the best team in it the past couple of months by a street. Personally I think they've played their hand and they're challenging the other clubs to better it. Blicavs will take the bigger bodied mids and Atkins will also play as a defensive mid leaving Guthrie and Dangerfield to provide the offensive power.
The challenge is there for Cripps, Kennedy, Hewitt, Cerra and Walsh to come up with solutions.

The other challenge is obviously Cameron. Personally I'd give them back a bit of their own. Put a stopper on him that will put him off his game. He doesn't handle physical attention and niggle so I'd get Cottrell and run with him wherever he goes and to aggravate him at every opportunity. If it's OK for Atkins to do it, I can't see a problem. Cameron will lose his cool and get reported inside 2 quarters.
He's not strong overhead so I'd risk a smaller runner on him.

Our players have shown this season that they can go to school on our deficiencies and will work hard to rectify them. Playing Freo a second time is a perfect example.
Cripps needs to shake off Blicavs. Even if he goes to Atkins at the stoppages and frees up a Kennedy or Hewitt, it will be a win. Let's see how long Geelong persist if we have a 2 on 1 at every stoppage.
Harry needs to pick up the bottom lip and man up. If he can't beat the kid for pace, beat him for workrate or strength. He wants the lace out passes all the time but he needs to be better than that.
Take the kid up the ground and lose him on the way back or dig your heels in and outmuscle him. At least get the ball to ground instead of giving up, FFS.

I didn't like Cerra the wing. His pace was an advantage we needed in the middle. I'd bring in Pitto and play TDK as a forward/ruck. Challenge the opposition defenders more.
Let's see how Geelong react to having a 203cm mobile ruck in the forward line when we play them again. As I said last week, it may force them to play Blicavs back if we can get enough supply. Be proactive.

Lastly, give the VC a kick up the arse. Weiters was poor last week and he regressed to Teague style defence. Allow your opponent a leg rope and then drop off to fill space when they win the ball. @#$%&! that. Be accountable and beat your man in every contest.
Don't lose heart. It's good to be challenged and there's no better time to get a reality check and a taste of what's to come.

So its Pitto and McGovern in for JSOS and Hayes. Put Doc on the wing.

Plowman Weitering Stocker
McGovern Young Saad
Doc Cripps Cottrell
Fish Harry Walsh
TDK Charlie Durdin

Pitto George Cerra
Kennedy (mid rotation) Newman (Back rotation) Owies/Motlop (Forward rotation) Newnes (wing rotation)


I see this post as an option that the MC failed to consider during the game. It’s either Crippas ego that wouldn’t adapt to The Problem or Voss did a Teague and backed his players. Whose running the show? If Voss was, he lacked creativity but as I felt he and we will all learn from that disaster, as we will from Saints game and Tigers game in the wet and the midfield meltdown vs Pies.

I am a big Cottrell fan. He’s a weapon. We don’t have an alternative to him imo.

I’m happy with Cerra off a wing, but I don’t think the position is the issue. Let’s hope the media scrutiny firs him up. How’s Cornes lying again telling the footy community Cerra was 700k. Why do it? He has a credibility issue and found Cerra to deflect :lol: simple people say simple things in the hope they are believed because they have a mic.

I would have thought Gov is the replacement for Plowman. I know you’re a fan, but I can’t see why. Plowman is not an interceptor. Each to their own. It’s not the end of the world. Just because he doesn’t sap our salary cap doesn’t mean he should be filling such an important role. He was lost on Saturday. You would’ve seen that…but you want Doc on a wing. Fair enough. I hate watching Doc kick to 2 on one’s, not in our favour or out of bounds. Looks like he’s looking for metres gained stats to me. Meaningless kicks, so good idea…till Williams and Boyd are back…imo.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:57 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Jeez , for some reason i have got the heebie jeebies about this game . We should really kick there brains in but for some reason i am nervous . Come up with something really brilliant to calm me down boys .......................


Because deep down you know we aren't that good ?


We're good enough to beat GWS at home ffs.

Seriously the way people have chucked their toys out of the cot on here after going down to the most in-form team and stand-alone premiership favourite, pull ya heads in!


Wow, steady on !

This isn't black and white win or lose against Geelong.

And each person throwing toys around as you so eloquently put it will have different reasons for their frustration.

Personally I am frustrated we go WLWLWLWL and that in a 5 goal loss 2 of those goals should have been prevented by having someone mark Balaclavas (or whatever his frikkin name is) in the goal square and someone going up in the ruck against Hawkins (SOS or JW).


Good response paddy. Makes sense.

Should we have lost against the Saints, Tigers and Pies? Nope, we did because we are susceptible for many reasons, and I still think we are a Top 4 team….and we can’t take winning for granted.

We should win this by 5 goals

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