Well 23 times in 50 games proves he struggles to have any form of defensive game plan in his coaching kit bag. Sorry but if he wants to play with the big boys, has to be more than a 1 trick pony.

Do you think 23 x 5 goal runs is a good thing?

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Footy Classified will be pretty interesting- esp Wed night.
The way I see it, RL pulled out for one of three reasons:
1) He didn’t want to go through the process
2) He was told that we are going with Clarko and we’re just waiting to iron out the details
3) He was told that were not going with him due to Board issues with his past.

If no.1, I get it from his perspective. We know what he brings but I suspect he would have had to go through only a limited version - describing in detail his plans for us going forward but not having to put too much effort into psych and EQ assessments. But if that is the reason he pulled out, I’m ok with that.
If no.2, fine. Not sure Clarko is our best option right at this point but I’m fine with this as a reason.
If no.3, I’d want there to be a fair bit more than an offhand b00bs comment that has spooked us. If not, it feels a bit like the Lethlean appointment that we were spooked out of. (If there is more to that story, then ok.)

If we do have Clarkson, I’ll be interested in how we backpedal on the ‘process’ that we’ve set up…


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No, but I can appreciate why a team that finishes 10th to 15th on the ladder could have those run ons, when you consider that those run ons are literally a scoring sequence, we've spent most of the previous 4 years rooted to the bottom of the ladder and were generally uncompetitive from the precious 40 games (4 in 40 was Bolton's record at the end) with significant changes in personnel.

Its like stating that the team lacks cohesion and thats a coaching issue, and that's simply a matter of excessive list turnover for an extended period of time. Particularly compared to the rest of the afl.

This isn't about coaching at some point. Else we would get scored against at will like the port game every week like we did with Bolton who had a defensive game plan.

The best sides are well drilled, and the well drilled sides haven't had 10 years of 4 senior coaches with different philosophy about how to play and significantly high best 22 turnover. They have an air of stability which makes roles clear to execute and running patterns more predictable.

Anyway, that's our biggest problem and hopefully the next coach can iron it out, but I suspect it will continue at least for a little while next season.

Okay so if you are saying the 5 goal run is an issue only that it points to a greater issue(s). I agree. The fact it continued across 2 seasons shows the issues(s) were not being addressed. That leaves us with the need for a review to find out why the issue(s) are not being addressed. That is what we did. The rest has since unfolded from that review.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

dont think that there is anything we need to do about referring to the backpedal ... its a simple case is

1. clarksons job if we can get him over the like for obvious reasons
2. every other coach needs to go through the process

i dont think, and even the media (thought im sure they will) cant find fault in that, he is possibly the greatest coach of all time (if he gets 1 or 2 for carlton he will be the greatest coach the game has ever seen)

Pretty much. I think the point where I differ from most is that I wasn't expecting things to be remarkably different from where they were at regarding something so emotive as a 5 goal run on in less than 50% of the sample size. This is football. The Tigers conceded at will once they had significant personnel issues and they have come from a much better place over the last 4 years.

I’m sure I saw a stat somewhere that we didn’t have the worst record for conceding 5+ unanswered goals over the last few years, I think the scum were actually worse than us.

Saints were number one.

#rattsstats

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So does this put the "we should've kept Ratts" argument to bed now?

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And the top 7 worst performed (except Essendon* in 2021 2nd half) are all rubbish.

Pretty good indicator that 5gl runs are a no win situation that take a team nowhere.

Regards Cazzesman

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So have we started the process or have we just talked about having a process?
When do interviews begin?

100%

He is a weasel.

tries to act all intellectual and middle ground , but exposes himself as a bias nerd.

As Mickstar rightfully calles him "Wankerley" of the highest order.

I wish he'd just get his head out of footy and go back to the horsies and checkers

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The Age article suggested possibly this week.

If there's anything in the Cook/Clarko stuff then they possibly wait for Geelong to finish and then no need for (many) interviews.

But I'm dubious of that because even if Cook is waiting until season over to go public he could let Clarkson know it's all going ahead.

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Yeah agree. There was some talk of Chris Scott too so possibly waiting on cats to hopefully lose this week and see where we land there.

Isn’t great gentleman that there is someone on this board who knows what they are doing in the real world
Thanks to Patty and the other 2 board members who didn’t want Simba to be handed the job on a platter

I'm not especially old school, but I reckon Crippa and the boys wanna be having a bit less fun this preseason than usual. Weitters said as much to media last week. Here's some old school advice from a guy who never got to play NFA but wanned to badly. Fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals. The fancy stuff doesn't work if you can't do the fundamentals right all the time. The line in the video linked to bellows from his (very) old school football coach and made me think of "Crippa and the boys" and foot-skills, gut running, providing a passing option even when it might not be used, knowing when to use a pass option and when not too, knowing your limitations etc etc at Carlton.

Fundamentals. Yes Ross Lyon probably would have been strong on the fundamentals and playing the percentages, but it's not rocket science and he's no Rhodes Scholar that's for sure.

https://youtu.be/j7zzQpvoYcQ?t=995

So does this put the "we should've kept Ratts" argument to bed now?[/quote]

Nothing will even put anything to bed on this forum! But yeah, nah, yeah Ratts → Malthouse was as bad as Britten → Pagan. Malthouse cost us a lot of good players, some of them became automatic picks at top four clubs at the time and even today.