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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:29 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
unbelievable.... After everything we been through & Carlton Members are still craving for more Recycled Rubbish.... :donk: :donk:

Exactly couldn’t agree
Meanwhile after a dip in form McAdam comes back with a ripper game
We didn’t even look at this bloke gave up pick 26 and 28 to get McGovern
This could end up as the worst trade since the drafts inception 35 years ago


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 Post subject: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:56 am 
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Crusader wrote:
Betts
Murphy
Casboult
O’Brien
Setterfield
Boyd
Cottrell

I think the age profile will save both Newnes and Gibbons, while Fisher & SPS will be available for the right price.


Why would you get rid of Boyd?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:45 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
Crusader wrote:
Betts
Murphy
Casboult
O’Brien
Setterfield

Boyd
Cottrell

I think the age profile will save both Newnes and Gibbons, while Fisher & SPS will be available for the right price.


Why would you get rid of Boyd?



Agree.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:20 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
Crusader wrote:
Betts
Murphy
Casboult
O’Brien
Setterfield
Boyd
Cottrell

I think the age profile will save both Newnes and Gibbons, while Fisher & SPS will be available for the right price.


Why would you get rid of Boyd?

Because his short term contract to fill a short term need has expired.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:36 pm 
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Humpers wrote:
The Western Bulldogs will be gunning for a flag next season however obviously lack targets up forward. I wonder if they would be interested in McGovern?


They just picked up the number 1 rated key forward in the draft in Ugle-Hagen. And they're going to pick up another this year in Darcy's son. I don't think they'll be looking for more key forwards.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:43 am 
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Humpers wrote:
The Western Bulldogs will be gunning for a flag next season however obviously lack targets up forward. I wonder if they would be interested in McGovern?


They just picked up the number 1 rated key forward in the draft in Ugle-Hagen. And they're going to pick up another this year in Darcy's son. I don't think they'll be looking for more key forwards.

Hopefully we can convince them that McGovern will be asset for them and they think naughton is better at chb

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:55 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
Humpers wrote:
The Western Bulldogs will be gunning for a flag next season however obviously lack targets up forward. I wonder if they would be interested in McGovern?


They just picked up the number 1 rated key forward in the draft in Ugle-Hagen. And they're going to pick up another this year in Darcy's son. I don't think they'll be looking for more key forwards.



McGovern is perfect for them whilst he's in 'hot' form and the kids develop. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:15 pm 
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If the club recruits Cerra there is still the need for more depth in the midfield.

A Jarrod Berry/Schoenberg type hard nut or run with mid, especially with Ed Curnow turning 32 in November.

Not great key position depth either - apparently Sam Skinner (24yo ex Lion) is performing well in the SANFL.

Mature ruck?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:52 pm 
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Effes wrote:
If the club recruits Cerra there is still the need for more depth in the midfield.

A Jarrod Berry/Schoenberg type hard nut or run with mid, especially with Ed Curnow turning 32 in November.

Not great key position depth either - apparently Sam Skinner (24yo ex Lion) is performing well in the SANFL.

Mature ruck?


Not that I don't want Cerra, but I was thinking the same thing today.

Our starting Midfield imo should include Walsh and 2 big bodies: one being Cripps and the other being someone with a bit of pace like a Hopper, a Dunkley, and yes to a Jarrod Berry. Cripps isn't blessed with speed, but I expect him to have a huge preseason getting his body and head right to apply himself more defensively next year. Fingers crossed.

If we can't get a Hopper type in the Trade period, I'd prefer Silvagni ahead of Kennedy in the midfield group, if

Cerra is an upgrade on Dow in terms of body size, but adds a bit of class. If Dow can take the next step next year, Cerra and Dow would be handy mixing it up with walsh through wing, mid and HF.

Chol was mentioned by Cazzeman recently, and he looks like the only worthy replacement for Levi.

Pitto signed for another year, but feel TDK will work on his craft and strength over the preseason to take the No 1 ruck from Pitto. Pitto can't play forward imo, and can't just sit on the bench to rotate when TDK needs a rest, so he's No1 ruck or reserves.

TDK needs a bonafide ruck waxing partner in the forward line, preferably not Silvagni, hence Chol. I see Bombers have their eye on him.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:22 pm 
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Given what Port and * paid respectively for Allir and Wright, I hope we at least had the wherewithal to inquire last year and this year will keep our eyes open for similar options amidst all the hype about the big fish.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:51 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
Given what Port and * paid respectively for Allir and Wright, I hope we at least had the wherewithal to inquire last year and this year will keep our eyes open for similar options amidst all the hype about the big fish.


Someone like Riccardi from GWS should be relatively cheap
Might allow us to move McGovern back & at very least would add depth to our forever injured key forwards


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:46 pm 
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Play stocker in the middle and you add the tough body we lack in there


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:47 pm 
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TheDenominator wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Given what Port and * paid respectively for Allir and Wright, I hope we at least had the wherewithal to inquire last year and this year will keep our eyes open for similar options amidst all the hype about the big fish.


Someone like Riccardi from GWS should be relatively cheap
Might allow us to move McGovern back & at very least would add depth to our forever injured key forwards


True, he is cheap but probably because he's below average for kicks, handballs, tackles, disposals, marks.
Not really ideal

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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BIBI01 wrote:
Play stocker in the middle and you add the tough body we lack in there

That was the obvious thing that should've been tried in the last couple of rounds to give him a taste of the pressure at AFL level.


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 Post subject: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:11 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
TheDenominator wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Given what Port and * paid respectively for Allir and Wright, I hope we at least had the wherewithal to inquire last year and this year will keep our eyes open for similar options amidst all the hype about the big fish.


Someone like Riccardi from GWS should be relatively cheap
Might allow us to move McGovern back & at very least would add depth to our forever injured key forwards


True, he is cheap but probably because he's below average for kicks, handballs, tackles, disposals, marks.
Not really ideal


So, a more durable version of McGovern?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:12 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
Given what Port and * paid respectively for Allir and Wright, I hope we at least had the wherewithal to inquire last year and this year will keep our eyes open for similar options amidst all the hype about the big fish.

It wouldn't of mattered if we got either of them anyway, our system was too poor for them to have any real development.
Then we would've had to hear about our poor recruiting for the next 12 months.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:49 pm 
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BIBI01 wrote:
Play stocker in the middle and you add the tough body we lack in there

He's certainly capable, though his endurance might limit him to an impact role as opposed to an all day accumulation.

Plus, he'd leave a pretty big hole in the defensive arc if he was moved up the ground. We've made our bed with Saad and Williams, as well as Docherty & Newman on the HBF/wing. Natural gameplay will see Stocker called on for a dozen or more defensive stoppages each week and it really ought to be the system that covers the small if he tries to sneak out the back.

It'd raise a few eyebrows, but I would be keen to add a premium senior midfielder that's looking for his last good contract. If we have the space, offer 4x500 to someone for the here & now - kerosene on the fire. There's a big gap between Ed Curnow @32 & Cripps/Williams @27.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Crusader wrote:
BIBI01 wrote:
Play stocker in the middle and you add the tough body we lack in there

He's certainly capable, though his endurance might limit him to an impact role as opposed to an all day accumulation.

Plus, he'd leave a pretty big hole in the defensive arc if he was moved up the ground. We've made our bed with Saad and Williams, as well as Docherty & Newman on the HBF/wing. Natural gameplay will see Stocker called on for a dozen or more defensive stoppages each week and it really ought to be the system that covers the small if he tries to sneak out the back.

It'd raise a few eyebrows, but I would be keen to add a premium senior midfielder that's looking for his last good contract. If we have the space, offer 4x500 to someone for the here & now - kerosene on the fire. There's a big gap between Ed Curnow @32 & Cripps/Williams @27.


Luke Parker aged 28. Contested football beast, leadership qualities and great overhead. Kicks goals.

Sydney star Luke Parker and his management are chasing a long-term contract worth around or above $700,000 a season, reports SEN’s Sam Edmund.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:33 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Crusader wrote:
BIBI01 wrote:
Play stocker in the middle and you add the tough body we lack in there

He's certainly capable, though his endurance might limit him to an impact role as opposed to an all day accumulation.

Plus, he'd leave a pretty big hole in the defensive arc if he was moved up the ground. We've made our bed with Saad and Williams, as well as Docherty & Newman on the HBF/wing. Natural gameplay will see Stocker called on for a dozen or more defensive stoppages each week and it really ought to be the system that covers the small if he tries to sneak out the back.

It'd raise a few eyebrows, but I would be keen to add a premium senior midfielder that's looking for his last good contract. If we have the space, offer 4x500 to someone for the here & now - kerosene on the fire. There's a big gap between Ed Curnow @32 & Cripps/Williams @27.


Luke Parker aged 28. Contested football beast, leadership qualities and great overhead. Kicks goals.

Sydney star Luke Parker and his management are chasing a long-term contract worth around or above $700,000 a season, reports SEN’s Sam Edmund.

Regards Cazzesman

His management would be the first phone call for sure. Guthrie would be next, then perhaps Crouch if fit and Wallis for a bit less coin.

No doubt would cause a squeeze in the last couple of years with nine guys on $500k or more (Walsh, Cripps, Weitering, Harry, Charlie, Martin, Saad, Williams, McGovern).... I dunno... food for thought.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:13 pm 
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Murphy & Levi and Eddie probably free up 1.6+mill

Ed will maybe finish up end of 2022
Newnes I would delist
Marchbank is 50/50 to be kept on.

I would offer Parker $650 per year for 4 years
Cerra gets an Offer of whatever.

Easy done.

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