At least we know Teague won’t be coaching Dow again ,,,

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#sayerscouldbetheman!!

You forgot he was also sacked and picking up someone elses garbage.

Bit of patience and support.

I am very interested what he can do with a healthy list and two very good midfield additions.

Could absolutely dominate and giving him 2022 to show that is fair in my book but needs some quality additions to the midfield.

If he fails - then next coach has a primed list - even a midfield that can compete with the best - so damn critical.

You do realise u are making no sense yeah

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#sayerscouldbetheman!!

I think he can do it. Been around the traps for 10+ years from 29 years old coaching. I reckon he can dominate with his game plan tbh.

I think he’s saying Teague is a good assistant coach, makes sense.
Now we just need a senior coach to lead the club.

Who’d be your two midfield additions and what are we giving up to get them?

We were held together by AA quality seasons of Weiters, Walsh and McKay. Then solid to very good contributions from Jones, Saad, Cripps (though short of his standards), Betts, Ed Curnow (most of the season, though playing different role now).

No one else has either a) played regularly or b) been very consistent or good

My personal guess would be Cerra, but would involve giving up pick 6 (probably pick 5 by Sunday), we should try and give up next years first rounder. Probably have to throw in an SPS or Fisher (I am guessing the former).

As for another one, I am not quite sure, hope Dow has a massive pre season and do what he has shown in glimpses on a regular basis is a start. Then maybe Philp, Kemp, Carroll or Stocker as a mid? Then we need someone hard and tough in defence to replace Stocker.

Ideally we'd want a more established midfielder, in the 22-24 age range.

Being sacked/moved on or whatever doesn't preclude anyone from being good in another job/role. Endless examples of coaches who have been sacked in sports worldwide who have gone onto be successful for other teams, even in AFL/VFL in years past (Matthews, Eade at Dogs, Parkin, Hafey).

It's been more over the last decade or 2 AFL clubs have been scared to give anyone with previous experience jobs, every single coach in the AFL at the moment had not coached another team previously (except Ratts), which is more a trend than a template we have to go by.

In saying all that, I would like to see what Teague could do with a bolstered football department, and proper support, rather than going in as is from last year using COVID as the reason. Either way, a coach is just a part of the puzzle, removing Teague in and of itself wont change our fortunes, as I think everyone here is aware.

Poor argument.

Teams require strong leaders or the person with the right capabilities. DT has proven he ain’t that person. Not sure why some are willing to cut him so much slack.

Teague has shown no leadership, guidance for our younger players and has played the internal politics wrong...

The only weird for him come Monday when he does terminated, is his direct boss Brad llyod isn’t there anymore to deliver the bad news and his other boss judd isn’t there either

So I am assuming it will be luke sayers directly that will be delivering the news to him and tell
Teague at the same time , the review was nailed and it showed he had a lot of flaws to be a senior coach

And goodbye and good luck

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Why is it every time we are in a crisis, Kouta has to always come out and give his two cents. im sorry Carlton Champ but not the smartest tool in the shed. He thinks Teague is coaching well. Sick of this boys club mentality we have at the club, they will always back eachother up and talk with rose coloured glasses. This is why we have been shit for a long time.

Clearly you never watched any of the games properly.
Maybe rewatch them without the rose coloured glasses.
We were an unorganised mess, all year.

We play like a team that has had 3 senior coaches with no backing for 10 years.

Comparisons to the Bombers are fraught with danger. Why? Well, for starters, Woosha took over after the drugs saga ended, and he had a handover to Rutten. So, that haphazard Bolton into Teague fast tracks Rutten by the exact period of time its taken us to say "teague is not up to it" because of the continuity that occurs when you have one bloke in charge with similar ideology to the apprentice coming in.

It means they weed out the guys they dont want there and get to reset that with the other blokes that are fully bought in.

Instead, we do this complete 180 degree turnaround from one coach to the next, where it was defense defense defense with structure to attack, attack attack and freedom, and wonder why our players have no idea what they are doing.

Continuity is what breeds the culture, and the structure and the organisation.

Disorganisation is what happens when no one completes anything and having a revolving door is cementing that problem.

Wrong thread Walshy.

You are Talking Shit here.

You have obviously no idea about Longmire and the Academy. NONE.

Stick to the facts.

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I like DT alot. I met him many times way back when and he was always one of life's gentlemen.

He has done a long apprenticeship at several clubs and he knows how it all works. For whatever reasons he couldn't make it work at the Blues. I am all for giving a guy a chance but the inability to stem the bleeding game after game, suggest to me something is not right.

He is probably getting paid $500,000+ to do a job. Anybody getting paid that amount of money needs to have the skill set to get the job done in an upwards trajectory. 3 or 4 real improver's and a few others 'At required Level' is just not enough. And the Likes of Walshy and Weits would have improved under their own steam regardless.

Yes I get all the arguments about injuries, covid, politics, work cohesion etc, etc but that is the role he took on. You have to adapt and overcome adversity in life and particularly in the AFL. Adversity brings out the best in the best. As a player Teaghuey got the very best out of himself but I just haven't seen it here as a Coach. His job is to set the game plan and get the players playing that game plan.

So A) his game plan is flawed or B) he can't get the players all working together consistently. Either way it means he is struggling to connect the dots as Coach and educator. Injuries take away good players but is shouldn't effect the overall look of A) and B). Certainly you might lose without the good players but that shouldn't effect the overall game plan and player endevour.

As big Jack Reacher says 'Hope for the best and plan for the worst.' We haven't seen that Teaguey has a Plan for the worst.

Do I think the team will get better given time based on the past 2.5 years?..............maybe/don't know/could do/might not.

If the President and the Board has the same apprehension then they shouldn't procrastinate. This is a multi million dollar business organisation not a game of marbles.

If you ask the question....Who is more likely to make Carlton FC a better and more competitive team over the next 3 years - Teaghue or Lyon?

I think logically the numbers will always fall with Lyon based on his Coaching history.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Agree with all of that but I’d add in C) Both of the above.

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Turkish Proverb

You can't argue with that.

Nice guy or not.

There's no semblance to an obvious game plan, or the players don't get it, because its too complex, hasn't been communicated succinctly, doesn't work.

Just can't continue like this.

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Or the players are too half arsed and unmotivated to execute it properly, like it has been for our previous coaches this century. The others must have been pretty rotten given Teague's record has been better than everyone bar Ratten.