I don't know if Teague is the right guy or not but what i do know is this shit started way before Teague got here.
I definitely don't think you can pin the culture on him. This stuff starts at the top and is embedded in your every day habits, processes, beliefs etc.

I think we were all on board with the rebuild & that it needed to happen because the list was terrible in circa 2015.

This may be all hindsight but to me what was fundamentally wrong with the whole process is that we forgot the part where we play this @#$%&! game to win! Our mantra should always be about winning - why else are we here? Instead we got given a message post Bolton's appointment that sounded something like "we won't be defined by wins and losses". We were conditioned to get excited by a passage of play, or a good mark, @#$%&! green shoots and honorable losses. I don't know about anyone else but if I am a Weitering, McKay, Dow, SPS, Fisher, Curnow etc etc and I am coming into a professional organisation, all I am hearing is "don't worry about winning, just develop a little bit and eventually we'll get there". Once that's in my head the pressure is off baby. I can get paid very good money to deliver pretty much @#$%&! all - club has told me as much. Sure at some point the pressure will come as it is now, but how hard will it be to change that mindset? To alter the culture ?

Based on the current state of play much harder than they'd like it to be I would say. Going to take some serious leadership to turn it around. Who will do that?

Would be a short sighted and panicky decision. I'll accept it but if we go through this again in two years the board will need a broom

The vindictiveness and vitriol directed towards him on social media is pathetic. He can only apologise for not being able to scratch your collective egos while being on lockdown.

Are we looking at a replacement in senior coach within the next 10 days, ColourMan?

What if they take a broom to the board, the coach AND the footy department? Would you support that?

Yep, apparently Teague not continuing next year will be announced before the end of the season…

Lloyd won’t survive either…

Liddell is on shaky ground…

Change of captain is being mooted, with Weiters looking likely…

How do we know Sayers wasn't at every board meeting challenging every poor decision so far (including the appointment of Teague and recruiting busts) and being outvoted every time? Give the guy a chance to sweep the broom and make his mark, safe to say he's not Old Carlton and he doesn't appear to have any of its political alliances/conflicts.

Sayers will be focused and determined, give him time to absorb the institutional incompetence and address the political factions within and surrounding our administration.
Plenty of history and procedure to acknowledge too.
I’m confident, He’ll certainly affect changes , in all areas , will ruffle feathers, he’s no yes man.

+1

Good onya Scotty

How do we know Sayers wasn't at every board meeting challenging every poor decision so far (including the appointment of Teague and recruiting busts) and being outvoted every time? Give the guy a chance to sweep the broom and make his mark, safe to say he's not Old Carlton and he doesn't appear to have any of its political alliances/conflicts.

Past 10 years he has attended all meetings. Thats 140 board meetings....

Four coaches in 10 years... while proper professional clubs find ways to add support structures he has overseen (as part of compliance of the club) four different coaches.

A whole lot of good this has done. Another coach is sacked and he has to go and take his board buddies with him.

I'm glad they sacked coaches who were not going to win us flags.

The problem is how those coaches were selected.

We were warned about training wheels.

I know one colleague of Teagues who says the head Coach role is too big for Teague.

His win rate suggests otherwise and that's with a crippled injury list.

Fair enough.

hey, I don't know if the 4 coaches were good enough or not, just sayin' the Board did good IF....

Two years to learn game plan and third year to execute it with a healthy list. Stock standard

Nonsense

Fagan, Bolton and now Noble have the teams playing an identifiable brand in the first 12 months. Then they had time to hone it.
We ignored defence for 2+ years and sadly, Teague is going to pay for it.

We haven't ignored defence at all - we have players that are too lazy to run back and lay tackles.

Focussing on ball movement doesn't mean you take players away from behind the ball. Pressing up and intercepting exit kicks from the opposition is a part of defence also running back behind the ball with speed. The faster joggers in defensive transition are weeded out the better - we have the worst midfield in this regard.

They are at fault almost 80% of the time in defensive transition. Lack fitness/desire/hunger/talent all of the above who knows.

Bolton put 18 players behind the ball and won 4 games in 44.... major failure.

Can't play homogenous football and expect to win flags.... ball movement is the alpha and omega in todays game and turn overs will occur and either current crops work rate in defensive transition improves or find players that can.