ColourMan wrote:
Bondi,
The comparison between SPS (and Dow and Fisher) and Cotchin was about how they were coached and developed....
Cotchin wasn't left to rot in the backline for 25 games or more... besides that, SPS hasn't been very good in the backline... our backline has gone backwards under Teague, and you need a top notch backline to do any good at the pointy end of the year.
Cotchin exploded in year 4, this SPS's and Fisher's 4th year...
Check the highlights of SPS's game against the Dogs, don't compare him to Cotchin, tell me what you think...
Just as an aside, Thomas Dow has played more midfield time (he played exclusively in the midfield, not the back or forward half) in his 2 games for the Tigers, than Paddy has since Teague took over... I know Paddy has been injured this year however there were 11 games last year, and Paddy played round 1 this year...
You don't have to prove your point to me.
I understand where you are coming from.
He had 2 big games with a lot of average ones, but he was only 19 and 20.
I did have a look at that clip of all his possessions. Out of respect to your request for an opinion, plus I love his game that day, plus we win.
I know what he can do, but I'm looking for the other stuff that he doesn't do that was said about him pre draft.
1. He had a BOG game = Positive. Negative is that he didn't show that form again in the midfield. Blame it on age.
2. He won contested balls = Positive. I thought the usually mad attack on the ball, the frenzied desperation to win contested ball by Dogs was missing this game.
3. He received a lot of ball and distributed effectively. No one took an interest to play on him, even when he had 23 possesssions and Healy makes the remark too.
I don't mind those dinky small kicks of his because he hits up targets in congestion: an underestimated skill. Furthermore, I know he can kick long and straight, and posters don't gve him credit for that.
BUT
The most important thing I've looked for every game he has played, and in this game is the Express Pace he was said to possess in his Pre Draft Profile. In this clip there is not one instance he shows any speed by foot. And, my fear is that if he's played close, he hasn't got the speed to make things happen. Dow has the speed and doesn't make it happen. Not once did I see speed in his midfield work, Not once did I see him make play, give it off and make the second play. He gives it off, dusts his hands, and is happy with that.
At the 3.13 min mark he does get the ball back after he made the first play. BUT he gets the ball to Walsh a metre ahead, Walsh goes sideways to Kreuzer who handballs to Gibbons then the 4th link of the play was back to SPS. SPS didn't make the play. He didn't sprint to make the 4th. The ball woul've travelled 10-15 minutes from his first handball to his receive. So I can't call that anything but followed the play and happpened to be in the right place because he didn't have to sprint.
I'm looking out for weaknesses, and see if they are fixable, coachable, then next season see if they have developed, sharpened their sword.
He plays like an inside mid. Has success against midgets, but how will he play against bigger mids (most are) like Fyfe and Mundy (every team has a couple), and the answer is, perhaps because he was still young, skinny, undeveloped, he struggled against bigger bodied mids.
I love him. I love Dow. I love the boys we drafted and gave us hope, but I haven't pencilled them into my first 18 in 2021. I did, along with Willo, now I have none of them in my team, until they show some real highlights consistently to prove they are will be elite.
I'm not writing him off, but maybe Teague and co see the same weaknesses.
Diesel would tell him to toughen up, as he did about Dow today.
Bondi, thank you for taking the time...
I’m assuming the highlighted parts are about SPS...
SPS had 35 possessions and was rarely caught on a fast track, he’s an inside/outside creative mid who is a quick thinking, instinctive, creative, natural footballer with excellent evasive skills.. you can be fast with your footy brain....
Bontempelli and Dunkley are rather large midfielders....
In the 11 games under Bolton in 2019 (playing as mid) he averaged 19.7 disposals per game and 5.3 tackles per game, as a young mid (in a young midfield) still learning his craft in a team that won just one game during that period...