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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:25 pm 
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All coaches have mentors. If you do the AFL, level, 2,3 and 4 course, having a mentor is a pre-requisite. If it's good enough for coaches like Clarko, I'm sure it's OK for Teague to have a sounding board as well.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:31 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
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you guys have Teague lined up for the sack already, you guys make me vomit!!
Seriously if you guys were in charge of Liverpool fc you would have sacked klopp after 6 months of his tenure.
No idea!!

Get off his back and let him do it his way, he will fall on his sword if it does not work out, but you guys have no idea of what his reasoning is or what is going on in the inner sanctom. Some of you are making fools of yourselves, leave that to me!!
You don't get it do you Tigger . At some point somewhere down the line regardless of how good they are or have been the coach gets moved on. Even the great Ferguson got the tap on the shoulder.
So its best to get in early then eventually when the axe falls you can sprout " they should have done this years ago " . Then you look like an internet genius.

You should try it then hang around for a while eventually you will be right

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Ferguson got moved on after how many years, 15 maybe, years not weeks!! His start to his career at man u was not something to write home about, was it !! Read up on it , you may learn something!!
Give me a better example!!Seriously you reckon i have no idea, laughable!!


I thought he was agreeing with you.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:38 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
All coaches have mentors. If you do the AFL, level, 2,3 and 4 course, having a mentor is a pre-requisite. If it's good enough for coaches like Clarko, I'm sure it's OK for Teague to have a sounding board as well.

Totally agree, unfortunately with all the cuts in football dept spending i cannot see this happening.Afl want an even corrupt comp,as long as Gil the Dill gets his wage package and gc and gws are a success!! Salary caps , now footy dept spending, it is a cap to prop up the lesser financial clubs!

It is not Football anymore it is Rugby, and even rugby is more appealing!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:42 pm 
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ferdinand wrote:
Trigger wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Trigger wrote:
you guys have Teague lined up for the sack already, you guys make me vomit!!
Seriously if you guys were in charge of Liverpool fc you would have sacked klopp after 6 months of his tenure.
No idea!!

Get off his back and let him do it his way, he will fall on his sword if it does not work out, but you guys have no idea of what his reasoning is or what is going on in the inner sanctom. Some of you are making fools of yourselves, leave that to me!!
You don't get it do you Tigger . At some point somewhere down the line regardless of how good they are or have been the coach gets moved on. Even the great Ferguson got the tap on the shoulder.
So its best to get in early then eventually when the axe falls you can sprout " they should have done this years ago " . Then you look like an internet genius.

You should try it then hang around for a while eventually you will be right

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Ferguson got moved on after how many years, 15 maybe, years not weeks!! His start to his career at man u was not something to write home about, was it !! Read up on it , you may learn something!!
Give me a better example!!Seriously you reckon i have no idea, laughable!!


I thought he was agreeing with you.


You serious?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:56 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Trigger wrote:
you guys have Teague lined up for the sack already, you guys make me vomit!!
Seriously if you guys were in charge of Liverpool fc you would have sacked klopp after 6 months of his tenure.
No idea!!

Get off his back and let him do it his way, he will fall on his sword if it does not work out, but you guys have no idea of what his reasoning is or what is going on in the inner sanctom. Some of you are making fools of yourselves, leave that to me!!
You don't get it do you Tigger . At some point somewhere down the line regardless of how good they are or have been the coach gets moved on. Even the great Ferguson got the tap on the shoulder.
So its best to get in early then eventually when the axe falls you can sprout " they should have done this years ago " . Then you look like an internet genius.

You should try it then hang around for a while eventually you will be right

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Ferguson got moved on after how many years, 15 maybe, years not weeks!! His start to his career at man u was not something to write home about, was it !! Read up on it , you may learn something!!
Give me a better example!!Seriously you reckon i have no idea, laughable!!
Yes but this coach whisperer is a bit of a goose. Made Kevin Walters look like an idiot in last year's SOO.




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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:57 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
ferdinand wrote:
Trigger wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Trigger wrote:
you guys have Teague lined up for the sack already, you guys make me vomit!!
Seriously if you guys were in charge of Liverpool fc you would have sacked klopp after 6 months of his tenure.
No idea!!

Get off his back and let him do it his way, he will fall on his sword if it does not work out, but you guys have no idea of what his reasoning is or what is going on in the inner sanctom. Some of you are making fools of yourselves, leave that to me!!
You don't get it do you Tigger . At some point somewhere down the line regardless of how good they are or have been the coach gets moved on. Even the great Ferguson got the tap on the shoulder.
So its best to get in early then eventually when the axe falls you can sprout " they should have done this years ago " . Then you look like an internet genius.

You should try it then hang around for a while eventually you will be right

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

Ferguson got moved on after how many years, 15 maybe, years not weeks!! His start to his career at man u was not something to write home about, was it !! Read up on it , you may learn something!!
Give me a better example!!Seriously you reckon i have no idea, laughable!!


I thought he was agreeing with you.


You serious?
Tigger settle down I was just taking the piss

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:28 am 
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Trigger wrote:
you guys have Teague lined up for the sack already, you guys make me vomit!!
Seriously if you guys were in charge of Liverpool fc you would have sacked klopp after 6 months of his tenure.
No idea!!

Get off his back and let him do it his way, he will fall on his sword if it does not work out, but you guys have no idea of what his reasoning is or what is going on in the inner sanctom. Some of you are making fools of yourselves, leave that to me!!



You make me vomit Trigger, if you are referring to me.

Check out my signature. I believe.
Check out my posts in support of Teague...as I continue to do.

There's a couple things he does or says which I don't agree with.
I am allowed to point them out without offending.
Harden up If you don't care about the Traditional rivalry, you must know it means a lot to the majoriy of Carltonians and the greater football public: listen to the interview again.

I'd like him to acknowledge the importance of the biggest rivalry in the country. That's all.
Just because he didn't, doesn't mean I dislike him. I can see he was tired.

Teague, Me, You...we're all in this together, and I believe in the way he's rolling and believe he will be our next Premiership Coach...and with his focus on the now and what needs to be done to be successful for 4 quarters, as I said in another post, he may do the unthinkable this year.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:31 am 
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Trigger wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
All coaches have mentors. If you do the AFL, level, 2,3 and 4 course, having a mentor is a pre-requisite. If it's good enough for coaches like Clarko, I'm sure it's OK for Teague to have a sounding board as well.

Totally agree, unfortunately with all the cuts in football dept spending i cannot see this happening.Afl want an even corrupt comp,as long as Gil the Dill gets his wage package and gc and gws are a success!! Salary caps , now footy dept spending, it is a cap to prop up the lesser financial clubs!

It is not Football anymore it is Rugby, and even rugby is more appealing!


I like this post Trigger. All of it.

Speaking my language.

AFL is more rugby than it ever was in the first 150 years.
Why? The AFL Commission is a boys club with no accountability.

Aussie Rules is different to AFL.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:03 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
I know he was tired, but I was disappointed in Teague's dismissal of the importance of the biggest rivalry in the Country, bar none. :sad:

I get it, and his focus and tired, Hub pressures, perhaps a night on the piss, or family interuptions, but he could have acknowledged he knows how big this game is on the Australian Sports Calendar, and due to Covid its another Hub game.

Just sayin' it shits me and I hope the PR machine tell him so. He's a former B & F for the club FFS. This rivalry means something!

I just saw it for the first time and I thought he was short with the questioners, almost terse.
Usually he answers and rattles on a bit but in this one, it was short and crisp followed by silence while the next question got looked up...
The rivalry bit is not as important for the young ones as it is for us oldies and the 1970 GF for most people is just a story. "OK, so it was the biggest comeback in history and OK, the biggest crowd yahdy yah but I wasn't born then."
In the John Nicholls interview I posted earlier in this thread, I did take note of the fact that he was introduced in the leadup as 'the Captain of the 1970 Carlton GF team, John Nicholls'. My instant reaction was one of,
"Hey, you! This bloke needs no introduction." but then I remembered that it was 50 years ago after all and anybody under 55 probably can't even remember it.
Anybody under 45 looks at the 79 and 81 GF so it is relevant for them.
Anybody under 35 looks at the 87 and 95 who weren't against Collingwood anyway.
We read it here all the time about the rivalry with Essendon* and Geelong and StK, Hawthorn. In 1970 Hawthorn was on its last legs.
It's a sign of the times.
When Teague played, the rivalry was against.... well nobody really because we were barely relevant, even struggling for our existence.

In that light, I don't mind he brushed it off a bit. The current players have no idea. They know of a huge rivalry between Sydney and WCE. Teague did acknowledge it but the current rivalry between the clubs is pushed by Eddie and the older brigade of players and supporters. It will happen again when we are playing them in finals and all the old vids get re-resurrected.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:34 pm 
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Played: 257 games (most by any two teams in VFL/AFL history)

Grand Finals: 5 wins - 1 loss (almost 1/3 of our GF tally)

Wins: 127 - Losses: 126 - Draws: 4

This should matter to every Carlton supporter regardless of age...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:00 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
I know he was tired, but I was disappointed in Teague's dismissal of the importance of the biggest rivalry in the Country, bar none. :sad:

I get it, and his focus and tired, Hub pressures, perhaps a night on the piss, or family interuptions, but he could have acknowledged he knows how big this game is on the Australian Sports Calendar, and due to Covid its another Hub game.

Just sayin' it shits me and I hope the PR machine tell him so. He's a former B & F for the club FFS. This rivalry means something!

I just saw it for the first time and I thought he was short with the questioners, almost terse.
Usually he answers and rattles on a bit but in this one, it was short and crisp followed by silence while the next question got looked up...
The rivalry bit is not as important for the young ones as it is for us oldies and the 1970 GF for most people is just a story. "OK, so it was the biggest comeback in history and OK, the biggest crowd yahdy yah but I wasn't born then."
In the John Nicholls interview I posted earlier in this thread, I did take note of the fact that he was introduced in the leadup as 'the Captain of the 1970 Carlton GF team, John Nicholls'. My instant reaction was one of,
"Hey, you! This bloke needs no introduction." but then I remembered that it was 50 years ago after all and anybody under 55 probably can't even remember it.
Anybody under 45 looks at the 79 and 81 GF so it is relevant for them.
Anybody under 35 looks at the 87 and 95 who weren't against Collingwood anyway.
We read it here all the time about the rivalry with Essendon** and Geelong and StK, Hawthorn. In 1970 Hawthorn was on its last legs.
It's a sign of the times.
When Teague played, the rivalry was against.... well nobody really because we were barely relevant, even struggling for our existence.

In that light, I don't mind he brushed it off a bit. The current players have no idea. They know of a huge rivalry between Sydney and WCE. Teague did acknowledge it but the current rivalry between the clubs is pushed by Eddie and the older brigade of players and supporters. It will happen again when we are playing them in finals and all the old vids get re-resurrected.


Well said. Good argument.

Fair enough Teague is focussed on the now, as he feels there's no need to draw on inspiration from the traditional rivalry.

I'm sure he would if he though he needed but he is focussed on playing our way, in our half, for 4 quarters.
He is a man on a mission.

I'm sure every player knows about the rivalry between Carlton Collingwood.

Its the biggets rivalry in the country.
No need for stand alone game like an Anzac Game, Queens Birthday Game...to get 90000 at the ground. Wonder why?
No doubt the rivalry is still significant for most supportes because its been drummed in on them by their parents and the greater football public.
Those born since 2000 can't miss the fact its a great rivalry. Its in their face. Not pushed just from Ed Maguire.

I'm OK with it, but I prefer Carltonians in Melb acknowledging the rivalry in the media, because they certainly are up here in Sydney and this is Swans country.

This morning at kids footy, the talk was about this Carlton Collingwood game.
The rivalry between these 2 clubs is bigger than you think for any age group.
My kids loved the acknowledgement made by the locals.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:02 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Trigger wrote:
you guys have Teague lined up for the sack already, you guys make me vomit!!
Seriously if you guys were in charge of Liverpool fc you would have sacked klopp after 6 months of his tenure.
No idea!!

Get off his back and let him do it his way, he will fall on his sword if it does not work out, but you guys have no idea of what his reasoning is or what is going on in the inner sanctom. Some of you are making fools of yourselves, leave that to me!!



You make me vomit Trigger, if you are referring to me.

Check out my signature. I believe.
Check out my posts in support of Teague...as I continue to do.

There's a couple things he does or says which I don't agree with.
I am allowed to point them out without offending.
Harden up If you don't care about the Traditional rivalry, you must know it means a lot to the majoriy of Carltonians and the greater football public: listen to the interview again.

I'd like him to acknowledge the importance of the biggest rivalry in the country. That's all.
Just because he didn't, doesn't mean I dislike him. I can see he was tired.

Teague, Me, You...we're all in this together, and I believe in the way he's rolling and believe he will be our next Premiership Coach...and with his focus on the now and what needs to be done to be successful for 4 quarters, as I said in another post, he may do the unthinkable this year.

Go Blues


i think trigger got triggered

i'm on the teague train


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:52 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
Played: 257 games (most by any two teams in VFL/AFL history)

Grand Finals: 5 wins - 1 loss (almost 1/3 of our GF tally)

Wins: 127 - Losses: 126 - Draws: 4

This should matter to every Carlton supporter regardless of age...


I guess our players aren't fans.


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Another 30+ turnaround to add to his ledger.

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Donstuie wrote:
Another 30+ turnaround to add to his ledger.


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This is now the 14th time in 21 games under David Teague that Carlton has conceded a 30-point swing. @AFLcomau

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:04 pm 
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Why does he not have any faith in the mids apart from the same bloke's in Cripps, Ed, Murphy and Setterfield.
Fisher wasted.
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Gibbons wasted.
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Has Teague got the balance right?

From Jake Niall's article today https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/sim ... 55qg1.html

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But such a move would pose significant risks, for Carlton's youthful list profile (the fifth youngest in the AFL) is contradicted by the age of the teams that have been selected this season.

Taken over 13 rounds, the Blues have been fielding the sixth oldest team (26.08 years), behind Hawthorn, Geelong, West Coast, Port Adelaide and Collingwood, in that order. Measured on average games per player, they're fifth in the competition (same order as average age, but ahead of Collingwood) with 104.5 games. They've also played the second-least players aged 22 and under to date.


We saw Dow today but generally it's the same very experienced midfield. Has Lachie O'Brien been written off? What elite trait does he possess for someone taken so early?

Is he balancing the need for development with the quest for wins?

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Time for Teague to get tough with this group. 6/13 games we haven’t shown up for a whole half or a big chunk of it. Richmond game - 7 goals behind at half time. Melbourne game - 7 goals to nil halfway through the second quarter. St Kilda game - 6 goals down midway through the 2nd quarter. Hawthorn game - up 30 points close to quarter time and down 12 by half time. West Coast - up 2 goals midway through the third quarter and lose by 4 goals. Collingwood - no goals in the entire second half. Stop backing in the same guys. Change it up. Find the players that cannot be trusted to do the job for 4 quarters and give them a spell. Prioritise players with mongrel


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