Im greedy - I dont want to lose either of them!

190 is the new 180

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TDK would be one of the best talls in the draft this year. GC or Melb might part with an early second for him?
Not sure how he will squeeze into the line up before he decides to move on for better opportunity at the end of his contract.

If we could trade him into a quality small forward would you do it?

Hell no.

You'd trade a talented up and coming ruck (which are rare) for a small forward?

Agree. No way should we entertain letting him go. Hell, I'm still getting over Jacob's departure.

Yes for a quality small forward at this moment for our list. Then have a crack at replicating Brisbane's 19' season next year.

If Casboult stays i am not sure how TDK gets a game.

If you were to put the Carlton list (40 players + 5 rookies +1 cat B) in front of me today and say 'put a highlighter through 10 players you consider untouchable'...TDK is on that list.

Just for shits and giggles, who’s on that list with him?

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Who would you trade for a quality small forward? Something our list needs but has lots of quality talls instead.

Use Papley as an example of the quality range.

Draft picks.
There is absolutely no need to trade required players.

It's actually hard to name 10! So I'll name 6 definites. Cripps, Stocker, Walsh, Weitering, C.Curnow, Petrevski-Seton. You could add McKay (but I'm not ready yet)... I'd consider Ben Silvagni as well. Once these kids get bigger I'm a firm believer they'll be something very special. In 2022, the kids will want numbers 12, 13 and 37 on their back. The common denominator in all these players is that they are/will be clean, one-touch players at the highest level.

TDK gets a game as first ruck, he’ll soon be ahead of Philips, Lobbe and Kreuzer. Casboult is a backup for many positions and would not get a game if everyone was fit, but that’s never the case and he rarely misses a match.

In my view, THE most important position we are lacking is the ruck.
Kreuzer is great around the ground when he plays but we can’t rely on him to play a season through - this year has been excellent based on his history - and I can’t imagine he’ll be around for more than 2yrs.
We need someone to succeed / overtake him in the next 2yrs.
NXT year, TDK comes in as the understudy and, if he’s good, becomes the main man by 2021.

(And if we could trade him for a first or second rounder, he must be showing something already although I haven’t seen much of him myself).

I would love Papley (or Jack Martin) but ruck first. And Cogniglio second - if there’s a hierarchy...
Actually, Cogs first, then ruck, then small forward...

To improve our list and have a better best 22 is pretty good reason.

I know its just an opinion you put forward, and appreciate opinions but I have to say I can't stomach anything you have written in this post. I goes against the grain of everything that has happened and happening in a positive way at Carlton. Its a destination club. Its a place a young squad wants to to grow together. Teague train. Toot Toot.

Have a read of what you wrote sentence by sentence ... I know its an opinion and maybe maybe just done to be thought provoking but its just so wrong on so many fronts its not funny.

The only thoughts it provokes for me is....

Why would I give away a kid who would be one of the best talls in this years draft for a second rounder?
The 2 better talls last year were taken at picks 4 and 6.

What gives you the impression he has to "Squeeze" himself into our team before he moves.
Do you get the inkling he has tickets on himself? Not happy at Carlton? Thinks he's reached his peak?
The kid is still on training wheels. Its his 2nd year and looked after by Andrew Russell.

Who do you and the club think will take Kreuzers and Levis spot when they hang up the boots?
Not only that but I can see him as one of the big forwards.

Why would TDK want to go to GC or Melb?

Why would I want to trade him?

For a small? when we can keep him, develop him and trade our first rounder in 2019 or 2012 for a small, if that's really the piece that's missing.

We will get Martin this year....and maybe even Papley. Yep, that's right. Papley. What if the Adelaide pick drops to a pick 8, or even 7?
If not this year, we will get Papley next year when he's out of contract and for far less than 2 first rounders they're asking for this year.

We dont need to be trading out our future stars for a pidley 2nd rounder.

Lets get back on the Teague Train. Much more fun. Toot Toot.

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7 and TDK for Rowell (The next Walsh) ?

I just got off the phone discussing the ruck.

I can't rely on Kreuzer to be fit in 2020.
I thought his last quarter against Saints was inspiring, but lets face it, it was against a tiring kid called Marshall. At half time, I wish Levi was in the ruck TBH.
TDK is the heir apparent, and I'd love to see Harry McKay and TDK bulk up and increase their strength to wax the ruck FF position and create nightmares for the opposition. Both are mobile, quick and TDK can jump....very high.

We need a tap ruckman to feed our elite midfield group Cripps, Walsh, Coniglio, Dow, SPS, Stocker, Fisher, and Setterfield.
Kreuzer can't jump and is not a tap ruckman.
Imagine what a good tap ruckman can do for the midfield.
Win the midfield and thy feed Harry Charlie and the Gov....small forwards feeed off that.

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We need a tap ruckman.
If we get Cognilio as a FA, we don't need Rowell, and we can use 2019 pick 7/8 and if needed 2020 2nd rounder on a small forward called Papley.
We have Cripps, Walsh, SPS, Stocker, Fisher, Setterfield....plenty.

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Earlier this year (or at some point late last year), there was a video of Bolton talking about one of the key talls re-signing, and he had a future CFC spine up on the board. At the time it was Marchbank, Weitering, Cripps, Curnow, McKay... and TDK as the ruck. The club rates him and sees him as our future no. 1 ruckman.

According to the font of truth (TC’s contract tracker), these are the current players without a contract for next year:
6 - Kade Simpson
19 - Angus Schumacher
21 - Jarrod Garlett
22 - Caleb Marchbank
27 - Matthew Lobbe
32 - Alex Fasolo
34 - Andrew Phillips
36 - Patrick Kerr
39 - Dale Thomas
40 - Michael Gibbons (r)
41 - Levi Casboult
42 - Kym LeBois (r)
45 - Hugh Goddard (r)
46 - Matthew Cottrell (r)
47 - Josh Deluca (r)

We know Thomas is gone. I would assume Garlett, Lobbe, Fasolo & LeBois are gone too.

Kerr & Goddard would be lineball. Probably depends on our list composition once other player movements have been settled. More likely to be gone than not, I would guess.

I hope Marchbank is signed up soon to a 2 or 3 year deal. I rate him. I’ve read some suggestions that we should offer him as trade bait but I wouldn’t be doing that.

Casboult has apparently activated the clause which gets him a contract extension. I wouldn’t trade him either, so he stays.

Simmo should go around one more time.

Gibbons has earned a 2 year extension.

Schumacher, Phillips, Cottrell & DeLuca should be offered 1 year deals, IMO.

So there’s......
at least 4 primary list spots available (Thomas, Garlett, Lobbe, Fasolo), probably 5 (Kerr); and
at least 1 rookie list spot (LeBois), maybe 2 (Goddard).

We may cut deeper than that, but I get the impression the club is looking to consolidate and stabilise our list. Accordingly:
1) I don’t expect the club will cut contracted players on the fringes like Polson & Macreadie;
2) I think we’ll be counting on draft picks - not players - being the currency to get trades (if any) done this year; and
3) we’ll be taking the minimum number of live selections in this year’s ND.

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