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Who should be Carlton's next coach?
Teague 48%  48%  [ 125 ]
B Scott 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Clarkson 13%  13%  [ 34 ]
Ratten 13%  13%  [ 33 ]
Voss 7%  7%  [ 18 ]
Malthouse 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Walls 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Caracella 3%  3%  [ 9 ]
Longmuir 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Barker 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Leppitsch 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Mitchell 3%  3%  [ 7 ]
Bassett 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Burns 2%  2%  [ 6 ]
Roos 3%  3%  [ 8 ]
Other 5%  5%  [ 12 ]
Total votes : 262
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I reckon Teaguey is the breath of fresh air these guys needed. There's no school teacher like cliches - as passionate as Bolts was - it s just laid back but dead honest from Dave. But supporting the laid back stuff is moments of real certainty and confidence "we've done the work....we are ready....we are out to win every game....can't wait to see these guys put 4 quarters together....I'm excited".

Gee whiz :thumbsup:


And those, of course are not cliches.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:06 am 
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Teague is a very confident bloke he was considered elite at Adelaide.

I'll be happy with either Teague or Ratten and not really interested anyone outside these two.


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Blue Sombrero wrote:
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I reckon Teaguey is the breath of fresh air these guys needed. There's no school teacher like cliches - as passionate as Bolts was - it s just laid back but dead honest from Dave. But supporting the laid back stuff is moments of real certainty and confidence "we've done the work....we are ready....we are out to win every game....can't wait to see these guys put 4 quarters together....I'm excited".

Gee whiz :thumbsup:


And those, of course are not cliches.


Factual statements of confidence to my mind.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:18 am 
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I'll be happy with either Teague or Ratten and not really interested anyone outside these two.


Might as well all pack up and go home if the powers that be decide Ratten is the man for the job. I'm not convinced he wants it...not sure why he'd even consider it...and not sure why anyone would wish that on him. His best bet is St.Kilda.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:45 am 
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You know what shits me? The 'process'. You know what shits me more? People who have to go through a 'process' of box-ticking rather than trusting intuition and instincts.

If those in charge have to go through a 'process' with Teague after watching him for 3 months then they have no right to fill the position they're in.

We went through the same process that delivered a coach with a win rate of 9.3%.

That's my rant :smoking: .


Hmmm.......so we went through the process once and it failed mainly due to "small" things like.......a full rebuild of the list, the removal of key senior players (especially in the middle) and a year riddled with injuries. Yet prior to this we solely operated on "intuition and instinct" and we got 20+ years of the most bleak period of our club, the worst AFL player list ever and instead of being the threat we once were, we became the joke of the AFL......Pffft.
You know what shits me..........complacent people who make knee jerk decisions then complain and whinge because things aren't going the way they "hoped" it would, then they look to blame someone else for the mess their poor decision making made. This isn't Auskick, Carlton is a multi-million dollar organisation and all organisations that are successful are process driven.
If Teague is successful in this "honeymoon" period of absolutely no pressure, does that make him the right person to take us to a premiership? Apart from putting the senior players back in the middle (obvious) instead of toughing it out with the kids to accelerate their learning and a few game day moves like Jack tagging with his carefree have fun football mantra. What has he done other than two wins that has your "intuition and instinct" saying he will take us all the way and not just winning a few games or becoming perennial finalists without the silver?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:35 pm 
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Did anyone pick up on Hutchy's comment on Footy Classified the other night?
When discussing the North coaching job he says don't discount Teague.
They had better not pinch him.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:57 pm 
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Yep.
Worried me a bit.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:19 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
Walsh wrote:
I'll be happy with either Teague or Ratten and not really interested anyone outside these two.


Might as well all pack up and go home if the powers that be decide Ratten is the man for the job. I'm not convinced he wants it...not sure why he'd even consider it...and not sure why anyone would wish that on him. His best bet is St.Kilda.

Agree... although, he's probably the pick of the bunch in the survey.

I hope he gets a better job than St Kilda. I've got a bunch of live bets going with some Scum & Filth supporters that he would coach a flag before either of Buckley & Hird.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:10 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
The Duke wrote:

You know what shits me? The 'process'. You know what shits me more? People who have to go through a 'process' of box-ticking rather than trusting intuition and instincts.

If those in charge have to go through a 'process' with Teague after watching him for 3 months then they have no right to fill the position they're in.

We went through the same process that delivered a coach with a win rate of 9.3%.

That's my rant :smoking: .


Hmmm.......so we went through the process once and it failed mainly due to "small" things like.......a full rebuild of the list, the removal of key senior players (especially in the middle) and a year riddled with injuries. Yet prior to this we solely operated on "intuition and instinct" and we got 20+ years of the most bleak period of our club, the worst AFL player list ever and instead of being the threat we once were, we became the joke of the AFL......Pffft.
You know what shits me..........complacent people who make knee jerk decisions then complain and whinge because things aren't going the way they "hoped" it would, then they look to blame someone else for the mess their poor decision making made. This isn't Auskick, Carlton is a multi-million dollar organisation and all organisations that are successful are process driven.
If Teague is successful in this "honeymoon" period of absolutely no pressure, does that make him the right person to take us to a premiership? Apart from putting the senior players back in the middle (obvious) instead of toughing it out with the kids to accelerate their learning and a few game day moves like Jack tagging with his carefree have fun football mantra. What has he done other than two wins that has your "intuition and instinct" saying he will take us all the way and not just winning a few games or becoming perennial finalists without the silver?


You need to accept you were wrong on Bolton. He couldn't coach. Time will tell with Teague, but so far he's shown he can be creative and flexible, which is the complete opposite to Bolts.

Most, if not all, Premiership coaches began life as an assistant. Teague was an assistant. The 'caretaker' parameters you use to prove he might not be right is totally useless. If Teague was an assistant at another club, we'd be mad not to consider him. So we'd be insane not to give him the job on the back of a good second half of the year.

It's a pretty good honeymoon that beats a top 8 side in Perth without Cripps and Charlie and Harry. But we'll see what the next 8 games hold in store.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:12 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Did anyone pick up on Hutchy's comment on Footy Classified the other night?
When discussing the North coaching job he says don't discount Teague.
They had better not pinch him.


If we want Teague, we'll get him. Don't believe the naysayers from a month ago who said we had a shit list - our list is very good and will improve. I'd much rather be coaching Carlton for the next 5 years than Kangas.

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The Duke wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
The Duke wrote:

You know what shits me? The 'process'. You know what shits me more? People who have to go through a 'process' of box-ticking rather than trusting intuition and instincts.

If those in charge have to go through a 'process' with Teague after watching him for 3 months then they have no right to fill the position they're in.

We went through the same process that delivered a coach with a win rate of 9.3%.

That's my rant :smoking: .


Hmmm.......so we went through the process once and it failed mainly due to "small" things like.......a full rebuild of the list, the removal of key senior players (especially in the middle) and a year riddled with injuries. Yet prior to this we solely operated on "intuition and instinct" and we got 20+ years of the most bleak period of our club, the worst AFL player list ever and instead of being the threat we once were, we became the joke of the AFL......Pffft.
You know what shits me..........complacent people who make knee jerk decisions then complain and whinge because things aren't going the way they "hoped" it would, then they look to blame someone else for the mess their poor decision making made. This isn't Auskick, Carlton is a multi-million dollar organisation and all organisations that are successful are process driven.
If Teague is successful in this "honeymoon" period of absolutely no pressure, does that make him the right person to take us to a premiership? Apart from putting the senior players back in the middle (obvious) instead of toughing it out with the kids to accelerate their learning and a few game day moves like Jack tagging with his carefree have fun football mantra. What has he done other than two wins that has your "intuition and instinct" saying he will take us all the way and not just winning a few games or becoming perennial finalists without the silver?


You need to accept you were wrong on Bolton. He couldn't coach. Time will tell with Teague, but so far he's shown he can be creative and flexible, which is the complete opposite to Bolts.

Most, if not all, Premiership coaches began life as an assistant. Teague was an assistant. The 'caretaker' parameters you use to prove he might not be right is totally useless. If Teague was an assistant at another club, we'd be mad not to consider him. So we'd be insane not to give him the job on the back of a good second half of the year.

It's a pretty good honeymoon that beats a top 8 side in Perth without Cripps and Charlie and Harry. But we'll see what the next 8 games hold in store.


Following a process for our next coach has nothing to do with Bolton, other than he is the one coach we have used a process to select. But seeing as though you've mentioned it.....If wrong you mean he is not at the club anymore, then yes, you are right. But as a coach to continue the rebuild.....we will never know and you need to look deeper than just saying he couldn't coach (I do agree that his game day tactics were a little flawed, looking from the outside). But what we do know, is he has set the foundations for this team with a constantly, short and ever changing hand of players. This is why the players after every win have addressed the work he has done leading up to the win (not giving full credit to Teague). Even Teague knows he has only tweaked with what has been drilled into the players for the last 3 and half seasons (just listen to his cliches). And this is my point, based on this how can you say he will be the next coach to take us to a premiership with out some sort of process to find out what his plans are and if he ticks the right boxes to get us there?
And are we at the stage of our rebuild where it is smart to take a risk on an assistant coach or are we better off to find a tried and proven coach to take us there?
I agree with you that the honeymoon has been great for us supporters, the club and the players and as you said, if Teague was at another club we'd be mad not to consider him. And by consider, there would be a process in selecting him over other assistants or coaches so why not have a process still, even if he is at the club already? There is no room for emotion in the AFL, it rarely pays off IMO.

Fingers crossed he wins another 3/4 games for us and he turns out to be our head coach next season.


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The Duke wrote:
kezza wrote:
Did anyone pick up on Hutchy's comment on Footy Classified the other night?
When discussing the North coaching job he says don't discount Teague.
They had better not pinch him.


If we want Teague, we'll get him. Don't believe the naysayers from a month ago who said we had a shit list - our list is very good and will improve. I'd much rather be coaching Carlton for the next 5 years than Kangas.


I agree....this sounds like BS to me.
Although the Kangas could be getting desperate, seeing as though the 2 of the 3 ex Kangas they have targeted have said no already.
Either way, I think Carlton would have to say no to Teague first before he packed up and left. He's having too much fun!


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That isn't the worry.
The worry is that some dumb dip shot with too much money at our club decides we need a 'name' coach and can't take a chance on Teague. Even if we win more games, everyone is happy and thriving etc. I keep hearing in the media how they think us supporters wouldn't want an unknown again. Let's just hope he gets a fair go.

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Anything is possible given our history.
I guess the only surety for Teague is to win a lot of games between now and the end of the season, finishing with a win over the Cats.


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I liked the way Teague kept his composure in the box with 1:06 on the clock in the last after we lost the lead. Not much he could do, but just good to see him not lose his shit.

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That isn't the worry.
The worry is that some dumb dop shot with too much money at our club decides we need a 'name' coach and can't take a chance on Teague. Wvwn if we win more games, everyone is happy and thriving etc. I keep hearing in the media how theu think is supporters wouldn't want an unknown again. Let's just hope he gets a fair go.



I like the term “dumb dop shot”. I’ll have to remember that one. It sounds less offensive than “dip$hit” but means the same thing :thumbsup:

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Yeah, he doesn't really look like much concerns him.


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CFC8795 wrote:
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That isn't the worry.
The worry is that some dumb dop shot with too much money at our club decides we need a 'name' coach and can't take a chance on Teague. Wvwn if we win more games, everyone is happy and thriving etc. I keep hearing in the media how theu think is supporters wouldn't want an unknown again. Let's just hope he gets a fair go.



I like the term “dumb dop shot”. I’ll have to remember that one. It sounds less offensive than “dip$hit” but means the same thing :thumbsup:

Just read through my post.
Oh geez. Have edited. :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:30 pm 
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what about Teague, with Roos as his support/mentor ??

but going from what i have seen to date, Teague is going alright as it is (not declaring him the coach just yet)

but he has done something that Bolton never did. Make game day moves and most have worked. JSOS a prime example, Kennedy to the Forward Line an example ... all have proven very good albeit only in one game.


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The luxury tax signalled the end of the paid ‘mentor’ era.

Besides, he’s in the 12th year of his coaching career. I’d like to think he would rather spend that cash on capable assistants.

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