bondiblue wrote:
jimmae wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
GWS' Cameron has a bit of pace.
I think he's too fast for Rowe.
Hope Weitering gets to play on him.
IF Mummy doesn't play....we're a chance.
Jaksch imo has more chance at success than Gorringe if VFL form is an indicator.
Gorringe was selected because Kreuzer Philips and Casboult were out injured not because he was knocking on the door.
In fact Gorringe was out injured the week before his first AFL game for Carlton ie no form..
I don't think we have anyone who can match Cameron in that regard right now, but agree that Weitering would be the best bet.
Unfortunately VFL form is not a great indicator if the team fails to play near enough to AFL intensity (or isn't being pushed to).
True, but generally the VFL form determines who is knocking the door down especially if the player doesn't have a reputation.
IMO Gorringe hasn't achieved much in the VFL and apart from the Lions game (which lacked the AFL intensity you mention) Jaksch' form has Gorringe covered. I don't know if Jaksch is AFL ready, well, to the level we would like him to perform. Just saying, there is a chance Jaksch will be selected to play against his old team.
Curnow.C has been given a few games to show his wares and done well.
Jones has been given 3 games and did well.
Gorringe has been given 3 games and did well in one game and didn't do well at all against NM and Saints
With 10 games to go I think we will get a look at Jaksch, hopefully Silvagni, Gowers, Cuningham, and maybe Rainbow and McKay.
The player I would love love love to see back in the team is Sheehan strutting his stuff. He was AFL class when he played fit.
I'm going to this game. Maybe as a GWS guest but I'd rather be in the outer yelling my guts out for the Blues as they get over the GWS in the dying minutes
I agree that Jaksch and Silvagni are the fit and in-form forwards sitting out of the team right now, what I'm trying to say is that Gorringe's strengths are better highlighted at the AFL level, namely his speed, his ball handling skills and his ability to consistently apply pressure at an above average (bordering elite) level for a key position player of his size.
At VFL level, particularly with a side that was struggling to maintain possession, he didn't get anywhere near as many opportunities to show those wares. I think if he went back now, he'd probably demand selection again fairly quickly, as it needs to be remembered that the VFL side and Gorringe were both adapting to the gameplan (and also the position in Gorringe's case).
Need to factor all this stuff in when making selection choices. He might well get dropped for Phillips, I just don't think it's that good an idea once you take more factors than his statistical and ruck performance against the Saints. It's important to consider his form as a forward first and foremost across the last month. He's trending upwards.
Walker deserves more ire in terms of his form trend.