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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:32 am 
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For me, the big thing will be to stop Richmond getting out to a big lead early.
They've done that to us the last few times iir and then we've almost run them down as the game progresses.

You don't have to kick a lot of goals to win footy matches, you just have to kick more than your opponent. Freo has proved that. If we kick nine and they kick eight we can win.
Our defence is stronger than our attack at this stage and our midfield is OK if they are all on the park. The issue against Sydney was our turnovers in the front half and the press being too shallow. I can't remember how many end to end goals they got after we had the footy locked in our F50 for several minutes but couldn't get an uncontested possession in the clear and then turned it over.

We also need some fast break footy with quality ball to Casboult and Walker.

Kerridge will kick a bag. He is the front half recruit of the year for us this off season.
Meanwhile, Weitering has shown he can match it down back. If Rowe and Jamison do their bit he will win his position. He is the back half recruit of the year already.

We can win this.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:33 am 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
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can anyone tell me - are all the 1st year players doing the same drills, times, work loads?


75% of the workload. Emma Quayle wrote a good article not long ago.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl ... =text-only


yes it is good..but the article relates to collingwood

what does are super footy ops manager do?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:48 am 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
yes it is good..but the article relates to collingwood
what does are super footy ops manager do?


This is the AFL. All that stuff is pretty similar across the board. Clubs share this sort of stuff. It's a very small world bubble.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:57 am 
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frank dardew wrote:
Most media outlets are suggesting Maric is very doubtful Deledio won't play either will Grigg and Edwards is still sore
I don't we can kick the goals either to win but that night many years ago to the G when Murray Vance played against Essendon** possibly his first game and we had no chance of winning with a very young team but did proves sometimes miracles happen
Wouldn't it be great if that happened
Keep the faith

I like the optimism Frank, but I think we should focus less on who might not be playing for Richmond and more on who WE send out there on Thursday night. Most of us will agree that - on paper - it is the worst Carlton forward line in living memory. Even without Lids et al, it's hard to see us kicking a winning score against a mature squad who has a settled game style.

In the 2001 game vs Essendon*, even though we had a few stars out we still had Ratten, Campo, Lappin, Hickmott etc all in their prime and a team who had played under the Parkin/Brittain game style for several years.

I'm predicting Thursday night's game will be tight in patches, in fact there will be periods where we control the play, but at some point(s) in the game the Tigers will have a scoring burst(s) which we can't match. Probably in 'red time' of at least one quarter.

I desperately hope I'm wrong, but I'm bracing myself for a 6-7 goal loss. It could get more ugly if Reiwoldt, Vickery & Martin are on song.

Unfortunately, I think we're more likely to get a reality check than a fairy tale.

I would never be more happy to be proven wrong :thumbsup:

Go Blues!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:17 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
yes it is good..but the article relates to collingwood
what does are super footy ops manager do?


This is the AFL. All that stuff is pretty similar across the board. Clubs share this sort of stuff. It's a very small world bubble.


when it comes to carlton, i doubt it...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:18 pm 
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If Richmond kick 8 goals and we kick 8 goals we'll win by virtue of having more points!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:19 pm 
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Understand rationale ABNS and in my head agree with it all BUT if there is any team that could muck up what as you say should be a routine victory against a bottom side - it is the Tigers

the beauty of it is that everyone thinks they will win /they probably think all they need to turn up and win - they have a couple of their players who have done well against us before out - a couple of sore players who now they may be tempted to play
They are now getting pilloried/questioned about picking up Yarran( not direct but incidental pressure and distraction) and whilst I know he has been reappointed Hardwicke but that 15 player stunt against Port and they way the handled that was a team and a coach under monumental pressure - they don't as a rule handle pressure well as a Club that's why they continue to lose finals

we probably have a 1 in 10 chance of winning I know that it may be less because of our forward line and goal kicking power

Everything would need to go right for us and everything pear shaped for them and maybe they still win but if we can get in front for long enough maybe they self destruct :smoking:

All the best ABNS

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:30 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Bluey44 wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
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[quote="Mosquito Fleet"]

I recall adam goodes spent his first year in the reserves. ..I stand to be corrected. ..he wasnt a no 1 though...boyd in the reserves in his 1st year...


Boyd spent much of is second year in the magoos also.

Because he was 2.0m tall and shit.


Well lets wait for a few years...talls take time...very concerned that mckay got stress fractures ....my suspision is we pushed him too hard.as talls takes time and mckay is very young.....

It's all Farouh's fault.



Bolton broke Harry McKay's back!!!!!!

WHY haven't the police started an investigation yet?
WHY is it being hushed up?

It's just like the Party Pie incident all over again!

This plot had MADHOUSE's evil, cunning fingerprints ALL OVER IT!!!!

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im not saying its bolton, Im saying how does a superfit young kid that would have been pick 1 next year because of his age, does 3 months of carlton training and gets a stress fracture in his back?
its always known talls take time over the years - the kid is still growing ...they should be on different programs to small mid fielders.
can anyone tell me - are all the 1st year players doing the same drills, times, work loads?[/quote]
Sort of inside word is that the North McKay and the rest of their draftees have been better managed physically than the Carlton ones... And that north are more professional in this regard.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:40 pm 
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Menzels cant run a time.trial.in adelaide
Yarran overweight
Harry mckay injured after 3 months
Waite not injured since being at north
Whats the common thread folks?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:42 pm 
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Full stops?

Too. Many. or not enough

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:48 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
Full stops?

Too. Many. or not enough

Not...enough. :smile:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:51 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Menzels cant run a time.trial.in adelaide
Yarran overweight
Harry mckay injured after 3 months
Waite not injured since being at north
Whats the common thread folks?


Harry isn't a slack cauliflower.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:53 pm 
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it therefore follows that Carlton have approached better than Richmond and are more professional in this regard, given we are not really missing anyone from our starting 22 because of injury or conditioning.... Vs Richmond who are missing several players.
(Assuming teams dont have a completely separate group of professionals prescribing activities for different maturities...)
I am dubious of 'the inside word' unless it is specific and referenced (at least the type of person e.g. "one of the doctors told me that...").

McKay is an underage beanstalk still growing into his skin. some bone & joint stress is almost expected even with good planning, as these guys move into the world of full time professional sport with bodies still developing.
I'd be very surprised if he was scheduled to play seniors in the first half of the year in any event.

I am sure we have a long way to go to match the professionalism of many other clubs but this is not new and something I believe we are attempting to change. But it will take time.

Remember Hawthorn when Clarkson took over. Pre-'line-in-the-sand' match etc....
Patience. Enjoy watching our boys grow and develop.


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Not sure being a low scoring defensive team is the way to grow your membership numbers.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:18 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Menzels cant run a time.trial.in adelaide
Yarran overweight
Harry mckay injured after 3 months
Waite not injured since being at north
Whats the common thread folks?

Can we still blame the Madhouse?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:19 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Menzels cant run a time.trial.in adelaide
Yarran overweight
Harry mckay injured after 3 months
Waite not injured since being at north
Whats the common thread folks?

Waite was injured last pre-season, and don't forget he's odds-on to retire at the end of this year.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:40 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Menzels cant run a time.trial.in adelaide
Yarran overweight
Harry mckay injured after 3 months
Waite not injured since being at north
Whats the common thread folks?


Not enough Billy Joel...

Harry's done, Weitering, John Barker's back again
Gorringe, Kerridge, Korcheck, Walker's hat.
Menzel's run in Adelaide, SOS's Western Sydney raid,
Yarran's fat, Waite's fit, forward line is still shit...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:44 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Menzels cant run a time.trial.in adelaide
Yarran overweight
Harry mckay injured after 3 months
Waite not injured since being at north
Whats the common thread folks?

Waite was injured last pre-season, and don't forget he's odds-on to retire at the end of this year.


waite delivered more games at north than for the same period at carlton post knee

the common thread is footy ops - Mr Andrew Mckay - hes in charge of the football department and I will call it - hes the one responsible for getting the right people and processes and he will not be our next Premiership footy ops manager imo


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:49 pm 
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Bolton didn't start the fire.......

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:50 pm 
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the common thread is footy ops - Mr Andrew Mckay - hes in charge of the football department and I will call it - hes the one responsible for getting the right people and processes and he will not be our next Premiership footy ops manager imo


Not exactly a big call there MF!!


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