Sickening isn't it!!!

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Not really. Both sides will be committed to a rebuild...we've got a good little coach and a reasonable CEO.

Tom Elliott has been consistently been touted as the next President and doesn't put his name up for the position either by invitation to the Board or by direct election of the Members.

The fact that no names have been publicly associated with this so called rebel group should be enough to clearly indicate to all that this so called challenge is just another campaign to destabilize the existing administration at Carlton. The fact that no names have been published should be enough to treat this so called challenge with the contempt it deserves.

That said, our club Board needs no factions, no benefactors and no millionaires nor billionaires - just a hard working, smart, commercial, football people that provide the confidence to the market to invest into the Club. We do not need any benefactors putting money in and exerting influence on the club - Pratt and Mathieson included.

Saladin couldn't unite these pumpkins.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

The constitution trumps how you or I read someone's title. The only board member who can sit on the INC is the President; the other two members have to be independent.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

you seem a little agitated mosquito fleet... ?

nothing wrong with a little democracy....

Precisely! Have a little fun with it! The Blues provide pretty good entertainment for a club on the bottom of the ladder...

Heyyyy...Mosquito - what if the new board decide that in Mathieson's absence they'll pay off the debt by selling the Melbourne City Council lease to the AFL and the AFL decide to play games at Princes Park again?! Oh my...that'd be awesome! Right?

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

The folly of the long-rumoured and much-vaunted Carlton Football Club civil war was not lost on any number of the suggested challengers on Friday as they moved to distance themselves from the reported rebel ticket.

Real estate boss Anthony Ferraro, a former Blues reserves player, and club champion Anthony Koutoufides were reportedly at the centre of the suggested challenge to Mark LoGiudice's board. Ferraro purchased a club membership in August and was hesitant to take a position when first contacted by Fairfax Media on Friday.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

You sure we don't need benefactors, millionaires and billionaires?

We're about to post a $2mil loss. I think we need them.

What we also need is a board that can reduce our influence on the above mentioned saviours by making the right decisions now. I get the feeling the current board have stopped the bleeding, but rather than turning things around and making some really progressive, innovative decisions (having a process to select a coach isn't that) have just managed not to completely @#$%&! anything up...although to process to remove Malthouse was pretty much a @#$%&! up.

If a group wants to challenge our current board, lets see them do it. None of these shit games, releasing rumours and testing waters....or waiting a year. Now is the time, put yourselves out there, let the members and football community see you and hear what you've got. If you can't gather the balls to do that, and you're not serious about this, then please don't make the job of our current board anymore difficult than it already is.

I don't know which is the right way and anyone who says they do is kidding themselves. At the moment though, there is no choice to make.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Caro proves she's got no @#$%&! idea again! Majority of board have been there a very long time...17 months?! Piss off Caroline!

You sure we don't need benefactors, millionaires and billionaires?

]We're about to post a $2mil loss. I think we need them.

what is the point of having the millionaires or billionaires on the Board when they oversaw or created the 2 million debt?

No doubt about that.

Given we made a $2mil loss....what happens when they're not there and the bank starts calling in our loans?

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

Haha, you pull the very last sentence out of the article. I think she is referring to the current term of the leadership of the board but each to their own.

I think she's spot on!!!!!

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

They go into hiding?

The only we are going to get out of this financial mess quickly is via the rank and file members/supporters.

Other clubs have successfully gone to their rank and file because they (a) can market it very well and (b) their members/supporters feel a 'close' connection to their club.

The Hawthorn members reinvigorated their own club by standing up when it counted ... they nearly lost their club through complacency and desertion but stood up when the penny dropped and through a concerted effort increased their membership base by over 100% in one season !!!

Our board cannot go to the rank and file because for too long their has been a "disconnect" ... Carlton people will tell you that they don't feel part of the club but instead feel like a consumer.

If the right group can come along and invigorate the club, provide hope and restore passion then this debt can be demolished through a concerted campaign ... if and when we do that then this club will launch as a power again ... the days of wealthy benefactors holding up clubs was gone long time ago.

Problem is the Hawks had Don Scott and we have Anthony Koutoufides.

Not inspiring when it comes to vision.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Wasn't it walls having a crack at the board mid season?

Plenty of deadwood on the current board and it is in urgent need of a cleanout.
The club is in the position it is in simply due to the decisions they have made.