Oh - I'm not a member...and Mark doesn't like non-members. He told me himself.

Clearly the CEO and board are on same page currently, you can only agree on the point you make.

Tell me Doc, why would Trigg hang around if we intend to go back to the "Carlton don't rebuild and the Pratt family has shitloads of cash" days?

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Because he's driving it! Trigg isn't part of a faction. Best to leave him out of discussions.

You're not making any sense, what you're effectively saying is Trigg is driving the board.

It's clear that the board and Trigg are on the same page, so far an excellent appointment..... By the board!!!

A board that is near factionless, but I guess that's why we have a rebel ticket in the deep dark shadows......who want to hang onto Jeanie and probably bear.

They could bring out Dick in a weekend at berrnies style just for the presser!!!

Power.....must be hurting them deeply it's being stripped away

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

I nominate Dennis Denuto

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Wowee, Synbad finally did it...Way to go big fella!!

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It's clear Trigg and the board are not on the same page.

One wants inclusiveness, the other wants exclusiveness.

You sure about that?



It's ebbed and flowed for years. I've been equally as unimpressed when the Pratts had power as I have been with the Mathiesons now in 'control'.

You're advocating one is better than the other. I'm saying there are bodies on there that haven't done much since 2007 and they haven't operated as a normal board should. I couldn't give a stuff what faction they belong to.

The CEO is driving the rebuild. As a CEO should. He's the only one being paid to do it.

You and I both know the board sets the strategic vision, stop fluffing around

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Teaguey - this is hard work. Let's have a beer and discuss.

Not sure why you think it's hard work when the Gooch was the compromise president between the 2 factions.

But I'd love to have a yarn over a beer with you, especially in regards to your ideas around customer engagement and the lapsed members. I'm sure there's plenty of positive stuff forums like this can do to help.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

I have 1 simple expectation. If there is a challenge then the challenging group need to release somewhat detailed information on how they propose to guide this club into the future. I won't base my vote on a 'they have to be better than what we've got' premise. I need proof they'll be better, or at least a reason to believe they'll be better.

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They couldn't be worse !

Fair enough. I think there's some critical questions required from both sides. It's probably a good time for some people to go back and read this to get an idea of what the LoGiudice-led Mathieson mob are proposing from a club strategic sense. Nice motherhood statements though they may be.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/staticfile/ ... 7_20524858

Then - maybe see this from Tom Elliott back in May.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... 1cb601e035

And then it's probably a fair enough question to ask the rebel alliance whether the current Pratt decision makers withheld monies at a time when the club desperately needed it - in a strategic (though underhanded) bid to make the current President look bad in declaring another big financial loss. If so, they'll be looking for votes in alderaan places and will have little chance of succeeding.

What the club needs at the start of a rebuild is zero factions. Unfortunately, that's not what we're going to get. Historically - Carlton tears itself apart from the inside first and then attempts a rebuild of sorts.

A lot of water to go under the bridge yet I sense.

Yes, we need Luke to unite the Force

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Sayers is already there!!! On the nominations committee too, fighting the tyranny of evil in ensuring board members are their for expertise and not to shore up numbers...

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Pretty sure the only board member on the INC is the President?

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Bolton kicked off the preseason by preaching the need for unity.

Poor bastard.

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Well your wrong, it's on the site within Luke's profile!!
http://m.carltonfc.com.au/club/board

He's on the Finance, Audit & Risk sub-committee and the Nominations & Remuneration sub-committee

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Hehe...Luke's a good bloke. Can't always commit his time to the CFC but managed to find a new board member that can. I'd make Kate President tomorrow and tell the testosterone-driven to calm the @#$%&! down and put the club first for a change.