Our new coach - 2016: Brendon Bolton - 25/8/15

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

I wouldn't discard grro's mail re Barker. I reckon he's close to the mark.

muzza · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:41 pm **Posts:** 2385

jim wrote:

Rexy wrote:

Brendan Bolton the late firmer.

Source: scoop, Caro

We can't have someone who hasn't played at AFL level. Failed each time. Even if they're smart and know how to coach they just don't get the respect of the players.

Neil Craig never played AFL.

camel · **Posted:** Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:12 pm

Braithy wrote:

Craig in a duel role... Fitness and coaching director.

Hmm, that's a tough one. Brawn over brains?

My money's on the fitness guy.

camel · **Posted:** Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:13 pm

muzza wrote:

jim wrote:

Rexy wrote:

Brendan Bolton the late firmer.

Source: scoop, Caro

We can't have someone who hasn't played at AFL level. Failed each time. Even if they're smart and know how to coach they just don't get the respect of the players.

Neil Craig never played AFL.

Yeah, that's why he'd be a perfect fit for Bolton. :razz:

emtwenty · **Joined:** Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:29 pm **Posts:** 7074

Matty LLoyd just confirmed on FC that Simon was told he's out of the running.

camel · **Posted:** Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:20 pm

This process is working well.

Blue Laguna · **Joined:** Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:09 pm **Posts:** 35

muzza wrote:

jim wrote:

Rexy wrote:

Brendan Bolton the late firmer.

Source: scoop, Caro

We can't have someone who hasn't played at AFL level. Failed each time. Even if they're smart and know how to coach they just don't get the respect of the players.

Neil Craig never played AFL.

His SANFL coaching record was ordinary prior to landing the Crows gig. Did pretty well there but failed to win 2 prelims.

Blue Laguna · **Joined:** Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:09 pm **Posts:** 35

emtwenty wrote:

Matty LLoyd just confirmed on FC that Simon was told he's out of the running.

Serious? Thank you Lord.

CK95 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:07 am

Blue Laguna wrote:

muzza wrote:

jim wrote:

Rexy wrote:

Brendan Bolton the late firmer.

Source: scoop, Caro

We can't have someone who hasn't played at AFL level. Failed each time. Even if they're smart and know how to coach they just don't get the respect of the players.

Neil Craig never played AFL.

His SANFL coaching record was ordinary prior to landing the Crows gig. Did pretty well there but failed to win 2 prelims.

He was pretty unlucky in 2005 though. Got hit by injuries to Ricciuto & a couple of other guns before their prelim.

The Crows were awesome that year

camel · **Posted:** Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:12 am

It's only because they didn't respect him that they got injured. Plus I heard it was an AFLPA directive to get its members to tank so the scab wouldn't win.

malbi · **Posted:** Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:30 am

Braithy wrote:

Does anyone know what kind of ego Craig has? Will he not impose himself too hard as director?

I was at a Carlton v Port Adelaide match a number of years ago and got introduced to Neil Craig by one of our city's leading sports journalists during the half time break. Craig was watching the Power as he had the Showdown the following week to contemplate. I could not be more impressed with the man. He was engaging, down to earth and treated me (a member of the public) as an equal in the conversation. I'll never forget the encounter. He is a truly decent guy.

Blueboy74 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:44 am

Blue Laguna wrote:

muzza wrote:

jim wrote:

Rexy wrote:

Brendan Bolton the late firmer.

Source: scoop, Caro

We can't have someone who hasn't played at AFL level. Failed each time. Even if they're smart and know how to coach they just don't get the respect of the players.

Neil Craig never played AFL.

His SANFL coaching record was ordinary prior to landing the Crows gig. Did pretty well there but failed to win 2 prelims.

So are you saying he was a more successful coach in the competition he never played in than the one where he played 300 games for 2 flags?

chubbyruss · **Joined:** Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:59 am **Posts:** 8631

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Blueboy74 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:23 am

CK95 wrote:

Blue Laguna wrote:

muzza wrote:

jim wrote:

Rexy wrote:

Brendan Bolton the late firmer.

Source: scoop, Caro

We can't have someone who hasn't played at AFL level. Failed each time. Even if they're smart and know how to coach they just don't get the respect of the players.

Neil Craig never played AFL.

His SANFL coaching record was ordinary prior to landing the Crows gig. Did pretty well there but failed to win 2 prelims.

He was pretty unlucky in 2005 though. Got hit by injuries to Ricciuto & a couple of other guns before their prelim.

The Crows were awesome that year

Interestingly in those 2 years that Adelaide went close in '05 and '06 Don Pyke was an assistant under Craig. Another link was Trigg being CEO at the time.

Went on to pursue business interests and in 2014 rejoined the ranks as West Coasts stoppage and structure coach, and West Coast's midfield has gone from one of the weakest to strongest.

Usually in these coaching appointments the media have a daily wild stab at who is favourite, only for an outside "bolter" to get the gig.

We all have different views on what makes a coach, but from a forum point of view, and from everything I've read on here he ticks most posters needs.

Played AFL.
Played in flags.
Comes from a successful club model.
Has coached his own side. (Claremont).
Is in a current modern structure.
Has been at more than one club, and therefore less chance that's he just riding the coat tails of others work.
His time as an assistant at both clubs has conincided with on-field improvement. His departure from Adelaide conincided with an on-field decline.

Over here in Adelaide he is getting more noise for their job than ours so interested in what's the vibe about him currently in Perth, and is he a genuine contender?

Stone Free · **Posted:** Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:39 am

I wouldn't be unhappy with a Bolton / Craig set-up.

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7182

Stone Free wrote:

I wouldn't be unhappy with a Bolton / Craig set-up.

nah, sounds good to me.

i'd like to see all new line coaches, but failing that... especially a new ruck and defensive coach set up.

AIRCAV · **Posted:** Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:10 am

I'm always a little surprised at the absolute focus on current assistants. I would have thought the better model is to source coaches who are currently or have had success at being a head coach. Someone who's had experience in dealing with all of the elements of the role, not just the witches hats. Unfortunately we tend to devalue coaches in the WAFL/VFL etc systems. As Bucks said, "being a head coach is like being a parent. Being an assistant is like bring a grandparent".

Not that I'd be disappointed with Bolton as he would come from a very successful system. The question is whether this club would allow him to implement the changes he'd want. If not, then once again we'll waste time.
I just hope whoever it is is given 100% support for at least a couple of years.

Blueboy74 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:17 am

Coaching your own side does get mentioned a lot as an important prerequisite.

Some have experience of both worlds ie Bolton was Box Hill coach before being an AFL assistant, and Pyke was at Claremont, before West Coast an Adelaide.

There was some talk that not coaching his own side may have counted against Lloyd, and lack of experience for Dew.

Clarkson coaching flags at Central Districts in the SANFL was his opening to being an AFL assistant and the of course senior coach.

CK95 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:27 am

I hope it's Bolton. Just for the press conferences

And yes I know that's shallow

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