..media has been running with that too, I think it's stupid.. ..get the head coach first, and then a strong team around him that He works well with.. ..not some stooge you think will be your proxy in the coachs box..

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Great post BV was at game last night thinking the same thing

For the last 2 years we have been banging on about playing young players and some due to necessity but also due to a coach holding his nerve not coaching for himself he plays young players and we go berserk when we are beaten by a red hot side who is smashing everyone

Last night was horrid if you are a Carlton supporterin terms of a result having said that saw small things from young players that were encouraging

Moreover without access to Gibbs Carrazzo big knockers Judd Thomas walker Menzel armfield graham what do we expect

A good point on the radio today average games played for Carlton -youngest team for the round against 140 games average for Hawthorn

Barker may not be the man for the job but would not knock him out of contention just on one performance

On the day after our biggest and most embarrassing ever loss... I read praise for the coach?

I like Barker but let's be serious... a 138 point loss is nothing but horrendous for this club... on so many levels

We were promised a modern brand of football instead we get more boundary hugging bullshit

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absolutely BKB
This does not auger well for ushering in a new era.
surely whether Laids remains must be discussed with the new coach?

I really believe we are at a grave tipping point.
One more false move from our club may be ruinous.
Danny Boy reminds us again of what many have been saying for years.
The Board and it's antiquated values must be on the cway out.
Not lip service, or manic scrambling to try and hold on to power, but real change.
For keeps.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

I dont have messiahs. That's my whole point. I don't play the man and personality politics. The coach is secondary issue to the systemic faults around recruitment, football department and board. Why bother changing the coach?

as BV pointed out MM had no intention of playing anyone except his pets.

It's hard to imagine we could have got a coach (in MM) who would put us in a worse position than we already were. But he hit it out of the park!

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one person makes or breaks the team and is judged by performance

that's the coach

understand that part of the equation

the board and the other staff members are responsible in their own departments and should be accountable for their own failings but the coach is responsible for the on field performance and player response that's all you need to realise about sports teams.
players that don't perform are judged on personal performance but the whole team performance and its output as a whole is the doing of the coaching staff and primarily the head honcho.
micky was judged and rightly executed now whoever takes over is responsible for the performance of the team in general and not on the membership drive, the sponsorship contracts or the sausage sizzle
everything from player development and growth, discipline, structure and game plan, match day tactics and responses, team selections and everything else that goes with managing, educating players and improving the performance of our team to succeed is the coach’s responsibility
micky failed let’s see how the next one performs
I don’t give a rats who coach's but if he doesn’t perform he will cop the same criticism and rightly so
The players deserve a fair wack for their performances but with the way micky played it was hard tp judge them on that insipid game plan, structure and every other reason that came along playing under a self centred tyrannical dinosaur that was our micky

MM managed to manufacture 80 point losses against bottom 8 sides like the Cats, he didn't have the opportunity to coach us against Freeo, the Swans or the Hawks. I suspect the results may have been even worse. Anyway we need a new everything and a lot of patience, and perhaps 15 years of failure might finally ensure that we understand there is no quick fix, just excellent recruiting, development, coaching and culture. We have been anything but excellent at any of the four over the last 15 years.

get camporeale

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

speaking with an old member of carlton (ex-carltonian) today at my son's game. Speaking of new coach he said (and those around him nodded) we just need to get someone from carlton to coach us...not an outsider...someone who played for us....Look at Jezza and Big Nick etc


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Still would like David Teague. So impressed with his work with the Bullants. Impressive Assistant too.

Barker is doing what he's told.

Which means we have a board that might actually know what they're doing. Thinking about it some more I'm now more convinced than ever that they will select someone from outside the club.

Barker's loyalty might earn him a role as a new Shane O.

If he wants it.

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moreseo trigg, sos and a slight touch of MLG

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Happy to be corrected. The board still has to be pulled into line and sign-off on things and if the executive has been able to get them to see the errors of their previous ways then more power to them.

Don't mind how, just happy that we're moving on from the disasters overseen by Kernahan.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

this makes no sense to me.
can you explain why this is good?

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Which bit?!

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these bits.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

I'm just piecing together what minds greater than mine have told us.

So, I've heard around the traps that Barker is coaching to instruction.

That means playing kids and, importantly, releasing them from the fear of failure. This is good for all the reasons BV has outlined.

And, for the first time in the modern era, the club appears to be taking a big picture view to list building and what is required to be a 21st century success. In many respects for everything great about the Barassi era, we might be taking our first steps from emerging from his shadow. As great as it is.

The bit about the board knowing what they're doing is good because even if they don't know what they're doing they know enough to hand the important decisions to people who do know what they're doing.

If mistakes are made by the board and/or executive now at least they're being made with the right intention and not because "We're Carlton, @#$%&! the rest."

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Lots of TCers want an ''outsider'' for coach. Which eliminates anyone with a past connection with Carlton.
But, having the Carlton FC on their CV doesn't appear to have greatly harmed Ross Lyon and Alan Richardson.

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