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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:32 pm 
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There has been improvement since he took over.
Not jumping out of my skin just yet.
We have Gold Coast next week and based on yesterday effort should win.
Win the next 2 after that against doggies and tiges then abandon the selection committee and give him the job.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:56 pm 
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He'd pretty much have to get us to the finals this year for me to accept him.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:08 pm 
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I was lucky enough to get some access to Barker on gameday yesterday.

He can coach, he was impressive from what i saw up close.

He is a real shot at the gig permanently from what i saw and also heard.


Edelsten out, Grro in.

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One trait I like about JB is that he is calm, measured and in control. His composure is a positive


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ah we'll soon wreck that!

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he isn't doing himself any harm, but lets not get carried away.

yes, I was jumping and shouting and enjoyed the win, and I hope there is more of it. I wont leave the ground unhappy if we put that effort in every week, but we must put that effort in every week.

we have played a few good games now, lets see how it looks at the end of the season, and more so how it looks after playing the likes of Freo, Hawks etc.. if we walk away being competitive then its a positive start!!

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........and remember any results he gets are with a team of assistants that are not his and who have been described as the weakest coaching group in the league.

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What Barker has shown, if nothing else, is that Mick was a handbrake on our players and that the talent we have may not be the competition's best but it's a lot better and more willing than we have come to expect in recent times.

Yes, it's easy to see in hindsight just how bad the Malthouse appointment was, but, seriously, it would have to rank as one of the worst coaching appointments of all time. The club just got it so terribly wrong.

I'm not overly concerned that we sakced Ratts, although it's hard to argue we'd be any worse off now if we didn't, but Malthouse, wow, what a monumental @#$%&! up that proved to be.

Kernahan was involved in a lot of bad decisions at board level over his extended time in an admin role. Just as well he could play football because I'd hate his @#$%&! guts if he didn't have that to hang his hat on.

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What Barker has shown, if nothing else, is that Mick was a handbrake on our players and that the talent we have may not be the competition's best but it's a lot better and more willing than we have come to expect in recent times.

Yes, it's easy to see in hindsight just how bad the Malthouse appointment was, but, seriously, it would have to rank as one of the worst coaching appointments of all time. The club just got it so terribly wrong.

I'm not overly concerned that we sakced Ratts, although it's hard to argue we'd be any worse off now if we didn't, but Malthouse, wow, what a monumental @#$%&! up that proved to be.

Kernahan was involved in a lot of bad decisions at board level over his extended time in an admin role. Just as well he could play football because I'd hate his @#$%&! guts if he didn't have that to hang his hat on.

:mad:


Yep ... arrogant, short-sighted and lazy
Long way to go but illustrates why some coaches just have to be chopped during a season.
As the soccer coach said...

Players such as Graham could well have been lost to us. This confidence could also flow through to the ressies as players know they will be given opportunities - in a side that is being encouraged to play with freedom and to their strengths.
Who knows, even Watson might turn that big ship around :eek: Not a bad start last weekend.
Old money bags was slowly destroying many of our kids. He was grinding them into the ground - and not physically :mad:
Was just great to see our boys playing with smiles on their faces again.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:32 am 
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And even this place is radiating little rays of sunshine :razz:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:38 am 
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I always thought Mick was good with kids. Whenever a new kid would debut for Collingwood he'd often have a pretty good impact and it seemed sustainable more often than not.

His record at Carlton on that front was poor.

Bring on the 21st century!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:47 am 
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That's the perception. Plenty of past players give him a rap.
Just didn't work this time.

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Well Barker proved that Malthouse couldn't coach anymore!! Just like I thought from the start.


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Long way to go in the season, with plenty of quality teams to play and baseline how much we have turned the corner. He is doing a great job though so far.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:09 pm 
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Great result this week.
Great endeavour and intensity since he took over.
What we are doing now is what we should have been doing irrespective of how good or bad the list is - competing, giving it everything.

However, it is the panel's job to make sure we get the best candidate. They will need to separate any initial, unbridled, unshackled enthusiasm from great coaching.
Exuberance is good but not sustainable without being accompanied by strategy, game plan(s), man management, development etc...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:17 pm 
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Some good points made on this page.

I think we clearly made the right decision to move on, but let's not get carried away.

Mick wasn't the right person for the job. That's clear now, but a lot can change over 3 years.

Mick has a record of developing some great young talent - that's undeniable. But it didn't work out with our list. Maybe he was too old, maybe he was too deep into self preservation mode, maybe there were differences with Shane Rogers than we're not privy to, or maybe Mick just hasn't had to deal with a rebuild on the scale of Carlton before.

I'm still not convinced that all the blame lies with Mick. Some of these players clearly have developed a tendency to switch the intensity on and off when they feel like it. I think Barker's approach has obviously had a refreshing effect on the players, but there definitely needs to be some questions asked of the senior and midrange players when it comes to trade period.

I like the tempo we are playing under Barker so far.
I could be wrong, but there seems to be signs of a style developing that's mid way between Ratts and Mick.

However I hope the coaching selection panel is a bit more measured in their approach than some of the posters on here. Port is playing very average footy - they are a team with top 4 potential playing like a bunch of mediocre also-rans. Albeit they are probably missing a couple of key pieces to their list which might be holding them back. We are a team with some good talent but a lot of holes, capable of knocking on the door of the 8, but we are still only one win away from the wooden spoon.

Good win for Barker, but there's a long way to go.

If we lose Gibbs this week, and Ablett comes back, it could be a lot tougher than people think.


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kennyhunter wrote:
camelboy wrote:
What Barker has shown, if nothing else, is that Mick was a handbrake on our players and that the talent we have may not be the competition's best but it's a lot better and more willing than we have come to expect in recent times.

Yes, it's easy to see in hindsight just how bad the Malthouse appointment was, but, seriously, it would have to rank as one of the worst coaching appointments of all time. The club just got it so terribly wrong.

I'm not overly concerned that we sakced Ratts, although it's hard to argue we'd be any worse off now if we didn't, but Malthouse, wow, what a monumental @#$%&! up that proved to be.

Kernahan was involved in a lot of bad decisions at board level over his extended time in an admin role. Just as well he could play football because I'd hate his @#$%&! guts if he didn't have that to hang his hat on.

:mad:


Yep ... arrogant, short-sighted and lazy
Long way to go but illustrates why some coaches just have to be chopped during a season.
As the soccer coach said....


Yes, but what irks me is the lack of accountability by the board members who caused such a waste massive of time and finances.
The damage they caused is off the scale and they should all resign.


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Some of the overreaction on here reminds me of when we used to extend contracts based on practice match form.

Barker is doing a good job for the moment but as some have pointed out, the players seem to be able to flick the switch as they please.

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I still think we need to tighten up in our defensive matchups, but that's partly personnel, so I'd like to see what he can do once Jamison and Byrne are ready to return to the senior side.

We're trying to bring run in right now by giving up on the idea we have enough talls in the defensive group that can do their job, but we've also been fortunate enough not to have too many quality talls in a given forward line to contend with since he stepped in.

It cost us the Adelaide game, and nearly cost us the Port game too, but for some bizarre reason Hinkley kept putting Westhoff in defence.

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jimmae wrote:
It cost us the Adelaide game, and nearly cost us the Port game too, but for some bizarre reason Hinkley kept putting Westhoff in defence.



Westhoff to defence is Port's go-to play when they're getting scored against.

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