GWS wrote:
The Rhino wrote:
As someone who never saw Doull play - my understanding of him was as a key position defender, and figure with a few of some of the names mentioned here (Roos, Sexton), query what the criteria of half back flanker as opposed to a centre half back would be?
With Southby at full back and Swan McKay at centre half back Doull was free to roam across half back and up onto the wing. Definitely a flanker for the bulk of his career. Only really took on the KP job after Swan and Southby retired. Which means he may well have played 100 games as a KPP but 250 more as a flanker. He was a very good KPP but he was played there by necessity and we missed his creativity there I reckon.
I don't remember him being beaten as a flanker (he got done a couple of times in his last couple of years as an undersized KPP) and his ability to set up players further down the ground was sublime.
Just one Carlton player with that sort of skill level would take us a fair way back up the ladder.
Well, almost true, but not entirely. He started as a ruck rover, then settled in defence as a HBF. Nicholls put him at CHB on Royce Hart for the 1972 GF (it was essentially his second year as a regular in the team). He thrashed Hart who was the best CHF going around and arguably the best ever (with apologies and concessions to Carey and Brereton), and this, along with Percy Jones playing the game of his life rucking all day, and Walls playing superbly at CHF, set up the win for Carlton.
Thereafter, Doull played HBF, CHB and FB depending on the opposition and on injuries to Southby and Curly Austin. In the early 80s, when we got Perovic (a winger from St Kilda) and played him at CHB, it released Doull to play more as an attacking flanker. Unfortunately, his last game was in the 86 GF at FB on Dunstall who torched him. It was one of his 2 or 3 poor games (out of 259 or so).
Fair call (same to Agro). I missed his earlier years.
BTW - it was 356 games...