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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:12 am 
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Craig Bradley

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Agree it may be difficult to get 6-8 new directors but still be worth getting 1 or 2 new ones at the AGM with the APPROPRIATE skills
don't 2 go up for re-election this year -why wouldn't at least 2 people run against incumbents who are up for re-election


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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:15 am 
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rgeminder@geminderholdings.com.au

Do what I'm doing - send the guy an email requesting he resign. We'll focus on the rest later. This guy should be the first to go.


Marcus Clarke, Gleeson and Greg Lee should also go. Been on the board for 7-8 years. According to the website they are on the football sub-committee as well.


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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:18 am 
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Dear Mr. Geminder,


I write this on behalf of hundreds of others who contribute financially to the Carlton Football Club over a number of years, completely flummoxed by your continued position on the Board of Directors of the Carlton Football Club, as well as the ongoing question of what it is you actually contribute in this position that your mother-in-law cannot do herself in her own position on the board.



With the pending sacking of Mick Malthouse as senior coach of the Carlton Football Club, it surely must make those such as yourself wonder who the media will target next as a point of scrutiny with such higher profile targets already moved on, or provided public guarantees of their position next year such is the case with Marc Murphy and Bryce Gibbs.


I don't think it's without reason to suggest that the excess nature of a family "owning" two seats on the board unnecessarily would be a particular direction the media would head in. Needless to say, your past involvement with the failed NBL franchise, the South Dragons brought up. All of a sudden the portrayal of Ruffy Geminder: failed sports entreprenuer becomes a very easy picture to paint. I question the impact such a portrayal would have on your more lucrative and successful business ventures as well as the indent left on your reputation in the corporate world.


I am well aware of the democratic processes of the Club, in particular the amount of signatures required to force an EGM and challenge of the board. I just think it's far better for all parties that you do the right thing and step down from the Board that you have contributed absolutely nothing toward in the ample time you have been a part of it.


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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:20 am 
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CARLTON’S dysfunctional board is again under fire, with posters on TC (whom I've plagiarised here) agitating for change..........”

EFA

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:38 am 
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While I'm all for spilling blood, who's going to run the club if there's 100 signatures and a spill of the board? Do the AFL send in administrators?


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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:43 am 
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Throw the club open to elections

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:50 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Throw the club open to elections


That's fine. How do you stop the same people being re-elected? If they got back in we'd be totally fkd


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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:02 am 
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You can't stop the same people from being re elected unless they stepped away and took on neutral observer status.
But the way they're doing things right now it's impossible to dislodge them.
In an election the members would have a say on things.
Hardly anybody on that board got in via an election. They're invites.
It's been an invitation only board..
The independent review committee will keep that status quo and make things even more difficult to be voted on.

Right jim?

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:04 am 
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azza? wrote:
The Rhino wrote:
rgeminder@geminderholdings.com.au

Do what I'm doing - send the guy an email requesting he resign. We'll focus on the rest later. This guy should be the first to go.


Marcus Clarke, Gleeson and Greg Lee should also go. Been on the board for 7-8 years. According to the website they are on the football sub-committee as well.

They're all guilty of killing the club as a group... There is nobody less guilty than anybody else.
They are a package.. It's a board.
Mrs Pratt also as well as everybody else

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:33 am 
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I want a Independent review of the club . Board , Playing group , Coaches etc ( not organised by the AFL )
Now is the time .. This is the min we can request
If we don't get it i will not renew .. & most importantly i will be one of the signatories for the spill of the board if there is anyone out there organising .

If we all feel SOS is going to fix this we are all dreaming ..

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:45 am 
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Sos is the knew Messiah...
There's a Messiah complex a about this football club...
It's what happens when they don't have a clue.. They look for somebody who might have a clue... Anybody
Right now it's all about the rebuild and sos.

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:46 am 
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Synbad wrote:
You can't stop the same people from being re elected unless they stepped away and took on neutral observer status.
But the way they're doing things right now it's impossible to dislodge them.
In an election the members would have a say on things.
Hardly anybody on that board got in via an election. They're invites.
It's been an invitation only board..
The independent review committee will keep that status quo and make things even more difficult to be voted on.

Right jim?

The INC simply profiles them, but anyone up for election must follow its process. I don't imagine it being a difficult hurdle for anyone of decent acumen to overcome, at all.

Just follow the process, and if you think you're not going to get a recommendation for political reasons, have your own campaign going in the media. All you need these days is a Twitter page, a Facebook page and a mobile phone. The rest is whether you can prove your credentials and orate.

That being said, some of you really need to shape up if you want to be at the forefront of that conversation. You're barely a few notches above the Fevola fans right now. You need to get better at asking and answering the hard questions. ;)

Synbad wrote:
Sos is the knew Messiah...
There's a Messiah complex a about this football club...
It's what happens when they don't have a clue.. They look for somebody who might have a clue... Anybody
Right now it's all about the rebuild and sos.

Maybe the board thinks that, but if you've ever met or dealt with SOS you'd know differently.

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:47 am 
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As the club continues with its out with the old and in with the new to find clear air they have forgotten about themselves.
That's the uncanny human trait of self denial.

Did you eat what they were cooking?

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:49 am 
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Jim were back to this. Why have it if it means nothing?
Why did the worldly president believe it's important if it's really not?

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:50 am 
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jimmae wrote:
Synbad wrote:
You can't stop the same people from being re elected unless they stepped away and took on neutral observer status.
But the way they're doing things right now it's impossible to dislodge them.
In an election the members would have a say on things.
Hardly anybody on that board got in via an election. They're invites.
It's been an invitation only board..
The independent review committee will keep that status quo and make things even more difficult to be voted on.

Right jim?

The INC simply profiles them, but anyone up for election must follow its process. I don't imagine it being a difficult hurdle for anyone of decent acumen to overcome, at all.

Just follow the process, and if you think you're not going to get a recommendation for political reasons, have your own campaign going in the media. All you need these days is a Twitter page, a Facebook page and a mobile phone. The rest is whether you can prove your credentials and orate.

That being said, some of you really need to shape up if you want to be at the forefront of that conversation. You're barely a few notches above the Fevola fans right now. You need to get better at asking and answering the hard questions. ;)

Synbad wrote:
Sos is the knew Messiah...
There's a Messiah complex a about this football club...
It's what happens when they don't have a clue.. They look for somebody who might have a clue... Anybody
Right now it's all about the rebuild and sos.

Maybe the board thinks that, but if you've ever met or dealt with SOS you'd know differently.

Good or bad Jim?

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 12:19 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Jim were back to this. Why have it if it means nothing?
Why did the worldly president believe it's important if it's really not?

To help the mug punter decide, and to help the person who doesn't have the funds to drive a campaign but has the skills and acumen by giving them a free process to determine suitability for all to see. Yes it can be subverted to an extent, but what election process isn't political in some way?

As for SOS, he was a disciplined, highly technical, skilful and hard working player who gave everything for our jumper. What makes you think anything has changed in his approach to football? He might sound dour because of his timbre, but does he strike you as an idiot?

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 Post subject: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 12:29 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Sos is the knew Messiah...
There's a Messiah complex a about this football club...
It's what happens when they don't have a clue.. They look for somebody who might have a clue... Anybody
Right now it's all about the rebuild and sos.

Come on Synners, he's not a messiah.... He's been brought in to fill a position that should have been there 10 years ago.

Blame the board and past admin for that, which I'll agree with you, but nobodies speaking about him as a messiah except people on here.

If all he brings is honesty, accountability and integrity to probably the most important position in any football club then it's money well spent. Clearly duffuses have been allowed to pick and choose based on whims with no accountability, and talked their way out of it for far too long.

That's why I reckon Rogers left, because he was unwilling to be held accountable about the past and therefore we couldn't trust him about the future.

If anyone could provide some 'facts' on why the geelong bloke left after such a short stay it would help in understanding how much collaboration and accountability there was in the past

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 12:49 pm 
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He is the Messiah.
It's all about the rebuild.
Sos told them he needs as many early picks as can and everybody is up for trade.
He told them it's terrible and must be gutted. Mark ran off to broadcast
Sos is now list manager and recruiter

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 Post subject: Re: The Board
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:09 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
He is the Messiah.
It's all about the rebuild.
Sos told them he needs as many early picks as can and everybody is up for trade.
He told them it's terrible and must be gutted. Mark ran off to broadcast
Sos is now list manager and recruiter


I would have thought you'd agree with early draft picks sailor man.

El presidente appears to have small man syndrome. It's not on SOS if he runs around preaching what others have been saying for a long time (including yourself) re draft picks.


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:13 pm 
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So who could the alternatives to this current Baord be ?
Fraser Brown ? Tom Elliott ? Mark Maclure ?

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