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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:33 pm 
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It means the club is stuffed... But it hasn't hit it's bottom yet..

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:35 pm 
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It's bottom is years and years of this and worse...
Our prestige has evaporated to nothing.
. we have no pride
Were broke...

But this did nut happen overnight
Let's see what jimmy is all about instead of hiding behind his moderators status....

What's my manifesto Jim?
Lol

Come on

Jimmy says I read like a manifesto.
I challenge him as a shill.

Sounds fair.. One accusatin v the other
Let's see who's correct

Or he can have me virtually killed in the name of free speech I am Charlie or Carlton
And so I don't dominate
Plus so this is an enjoyable place for you all to come without me.

Basically I got two weeks for those things.
Laughable

But let's see what this moderator is all about now.
He can ban me for good of he likes but he should prove I'm full of it
. it will give him more credibility when he does

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:49 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
I know your had me banned for a couple of weeks..

Do you honestly think that if I banned you (and I didn't), and no one else agreed with it, that you would stay banned?

And I didn't make any accusations, you did; twice.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:52 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
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MPH78 wrote:
I forgot about this thread. I just posted about my conversation today with Steven in the Trigg thread. Seems he did the rounds today :thumbsup:


Having a think about this over the weekend, as commendable as it may be for Trigg to have done this, seriously, we are paying the bloke north of $300K to call up irate members ???

FFS, with the list of things wrong at this club, his to do list on a Monday was "call Joe Bloggs, member".

To me, this what is so damn wrong with this club. A bloke paid big bucks to run the club is getting bogged down in petty detail ?

Its taken me a few years but I'm firmly on Synners page here. Nothing will be achieved at this club because we just keep re-arrangiung the deck chairs. The Prez has been on the board since 2010. What they hell have we achieved in that time? What decision/governance can he point to that has been in anyway beneficial to the club in his 5 years??? And he was the best candidate ????

As Synners says, the on field performance is the reflection of the malaise off field. I have complete despair that we are going nowhere and slowly. That what we are seeing now is going to be our future for 5, 10 15 years. I'm done listening to them, I'm done hearing how they are going to do this or that. And if withdrawing my support hurts the club I love, well then so be it because theres no other way I can get across to the club how I feel.

Sacking Mick would simply be yet again us taking the easy way out. We are the new Richmond.

It sounds like he contacted some select members on one day, after having the social media team pour through forums and e-mails. Some of the e-mails were sent over a month ago, so it's the culmination of months of correspondence.

Would this be a bad thing if he sets aside a few hours every fortnight? I see it as something that helps him reinforce his own goals and message.


Don't know if that's 100% correct.
I sent a letter, following the Pies debacle..You know, put a stamp on it and posted it...... As a former 15 year member who hadn't re- newed this season. Got a ph call within 2 days. Got a good hearing too.
Personally I think emails etc are a waste of time.
I never thought I'd say this, but I think I finally understand what Synners has been banging on about.
Don't necessarily agree with it all.... But understand

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:55 pm 
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Synbad, you're free to express your opinion. You're just not free to abuse people.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:00 pm 
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Oh so I assume that's a rule for everybody Chucky?
Let's have it enforced across the board...

Bit I'm waiting on Jimmy's proof what I'm saying is wrong...

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:08 pm 
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Jimmy the guy that sent me the reasoning for the ban have the most pathetic reasons.
Something about I don't make the site enjoyable... Because whilst I was away you were all joyful?

But I don't mind

.... Really!
I did my pathetic time for you.

Now you show how it's a manifesto..

As a mod you need to not talk gibberish but start backing up some of your claims.

I know what I'm talking about.. There are a few people here that know my board sources


What's your angle?

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:13 pm 
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I seriously don't know what to think. So many issues.

What I want though is a clear direction and leadership. A consistency of message.

I want us to do what St Kilda & the Bulldogs have done. They are exciting and have hope. I have no issue with losing if there is hope and it looks like we are building towards something. For the past decade we have been going round in circles. This once proud club is a basket case.

I don't want to hear Murphy & Gibbs spinning the usual political tripe. I've heard it too many times. It's crap and it's just excuses. Am I dreaming or did I hear the same stuff last week?

Please MLG & Trigg please explain the recruitment of Jones, Tutt & Dick when we are rebuilding. Why we picked a 21 year old that is no where near fit enough to play in the AFL with a first round pick.

MLG says today we needs wins? That's the most important thing. So what does that force MM to do? More tagging and bringing back more mature players. How does that help us build a side?

To me it is more than confusing, it makes absolutely no sense. Seriously, what are we doing. Does anyone have any bloody idea what is going on???


P.S. Don't call me anymore asking for donations or why I have renewed my membership. Don't give me anymore unfulfilled promises, like better fan interaction or even another bloody hovercraft. I want action, I want to see you build a list. I want no more quick fixes. I want leaders. If not, I want you all too leave.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:21 pm 
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can't see us losing a game

nek minut we are rebuilding

nek minut we need to win games

morons

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:22 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Boycott the club for the good of the club..
These people need to be exposed.

It's happening anyway...


You're right, I went to every home game from 2003 to 2014 with the exception of a couple of games in 2006. I didn't attend away games as I swore I'd never give an opposition side a cent after 2002.

I had the fiasco with my membership, told my mates, now one cancelled his family membership, another his.

That's the story of six ex-members.

How many more are there like us?


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:26 pm 
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Synners, please don't insult the other moderators by completely discounting their importance and influence. You bolted in here, 20 minutes after your 14-day ban expired, and you haven't stopped posting your thoughts for nearly 5 hours.

Synbad wrote:
As a mod you need to not talk gibberish but start backing up some of your claims.

I know what I'm talking about.. There are a few people here that know my board sources

I don't know your sources, but this is a discussion forum, and I merely cast doubt on one of your claims. The reason I did that is because, as a standalone statement, it sounds ridiculously stupid.

All this talk about shills and puppets... what makes you immune to manipulation?

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:39 pm 
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King Kenny wrote:
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Synners is spot on ... I don't think our supporters truly understand how stuffed the club is. These guys have no clue but they want total control ... They won't back down ... So this isn't going to turn around any time soon or if at all. My sources tell me the powers to be have some big plans ... Unfortunately this hole is only going to get deeper ... But as Synners said time for them to do it on their own and without the supporters ...


Supporters already don't care. How many of us don't put money into memberships these days? Plenty is the answer.

All I hear is how much the club is stuffed. What does that mean in real terms?


It means that if u think this is bad u have seen nothing yet ... The old Carlton may never return ... Not in our life time either ... These guys ain't going anywhere ... By the way all this is MM's fault or Murphy or Gibbs ... They are the masters of deflection and most of the footy public fooled. If I was a player and hear my fearless leaders give up after round 2 ... Then I would most likely be motivated to play my best footy too ... The club is so stuffed ... Again u haven't heard or seen half the stuff these morons are "cooking" next ...


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:40 pm 
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Jimmy I'm not insulting the moderators for sending me a letter..
There's nothing to hide.
Was just a pathetic letter..
Reread it yourself.. I'm not sure why you're embarrassed about sending it when you all as a group thought it was a stand to letter.

Anyway let's move on

You don't know my sources but you dismiss them?
Why?

Do you dismiss them because I'd true it's a pathetic take on club practices or your dismissing them for no reason except they don't suit your gate keeping?

You said it reads like a manifesto.
Why don't you just say..
Synbad I think you're a liar and if that's what the club is really doing.. I'm with you.. They should all go!
In effect your dispelling what I'm saying but not committing yourself for the good if the club.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:40 pm 
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Jimmy I'm not insulting the moderators for sending me a letter..
There's nothing to hide.
Was just a pathetic letter..
Reread it yourself.. I'm not sure why you're embarrassed about sending it when you all as a group thought it was a stand to letter.

Anyway let's move on

You don't know my sources but you dismiss them?
Why?

Do you dismiss them because I'd true it's a pathetic take on club practices or your dismissing them for no reason except they don't suit your gate keeping?

You said it reads like a manifesto.
Why don't you just say..
Synbad I think you're a liar and if that's what the club is really doing.. I'm with you.. They should all go!
In effect your dispelling what I'm saying but not committing yourself for the good if the club.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:52 pm 
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All this talk of sources, big plans, ain't seen nothin yet, is doing my head in.
Any chance that you guys with the inside "knowledge" could let the rest of us minions know WTF is going on?????
It's like you're all speaking in tongues.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:54 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Anyway let's move on


Do we still have that POW thing...?

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:02 pm 
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Cool Runnings wrote:
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Synners is spot on ... I don't think our supporters truly understand how stuffed the club is. These guys have no clue but they want total control ... They won't back down ... So this isn't going to turn around any time soon or if at all. My sources tell me the powers to be have some big plans ... Unfortunately this hole is only going to get deeper ... But as Synners said time for them to do it on their own and without the supporters ...


Supporters already don't care. How many of us don't put money into memberships these days? Plenty is the answer.

All I hear is how much the club is stuffed. What does that mean in real terms?


It means that if u think this is bad u have seen nothing yet ... The old Carlton may never return ... Not in our life time either ... These guys ain't going anywhere ... By the way all this is MM's fault or Murphy or Gibbs ... They are the masters of deflection and most of the footy public fooled. If I was a player and hear my fearless leaders give up after round 2 ... Then I would most likely be motivated to play my best footy too ... The club is so stuffed ... Again u haven't heard or seen half the stuff these morons are "cooking" next ...


Stop talking about cooking and tell us what cooking is.

See the problem I have is, people sprout on forums things are bad, plans are bad, yet no facts are provided, it's all rumour and innuendo.


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:08 pm 
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Mark J wrote:
All this talk of sources, big plans, ain't seen nothin yet, is doing my head in.
Any chance that you guys with the inside "knowledge" could let the rest of us minions know WTF is going on?????
It's like you're all speaking in tongues.

Correct, if it's that bad then put it out there, it's a forum where we hide behind pseudo Internet names. If it's true then you shouldn't be worried about recourse

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:13 pm 
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
Mark J wrote:
All this talk of sources, big plans, ain't seen nothin yet, is doing my head in.
Any chance that you guys with the inside "knowledge" could let the rest of us minions know WTF is going on?????
It's like you're all speaking in tongues.

Correct, if it's that bad then put it out there, it's a forum where we hide behind pseudo Internet names. If it's true then you shouldn't be worried about recourse


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