Independent Nominations Committee - passed at AGM

Cretylus · **Posted:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:47 pm

....funny how our club has never set up a proper COMMITTEE to head hunt crucial positions such as the senior coaching role, assistants, fitness and development personnel etc...senior coaches chosen with winks and secret meetings etc...

But an INC (which isnt really independent), is so urgently needed that it is levered into the next available AGM without much discussion or communication between the Club and members.

If members can't see what's happening to the club then they are either disinterested/apathetic or very naive....

(or both)

Synbad · **Posted:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:13 pm

That's because most people who are members have no clue what's going on.
That's why I brought this up.. Plus I set the ball rolling through designated people who ended up getting the ball rolling and the club being forced to address it.
If I left it up to the drone members who received this in literature and didn't even bother to read it.. This wouldn't even have been addressed.
I know why I don't contribute... Lol
But some of you are contributing in the hope that the same people who the club into the ground will now save it...
They won't... !
If they could have saved it they wouldn't have run it into the ground... In the first place...

camel · **Posted:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:25 pm

You're so full of yourself. :lol:

Synbad · **Posted:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:22 pm

well....i cant help im the brains in here...
wish some of you others would pick up your socks when it comes to thinking about this footy club.....

beats being full of yourself and not having a brain or ever using any kind of logic,camel... like u....

Synbad · **Posted:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:30 pm

in the meantime.. im loooking on here to see what mozzie can tell us about the permimeters this committee has set in filtering ... i mean choosing board prospects...

this .. i wanna hear.......!!!!

bet he doesnt even know.. and yet he tells us this committee isnt proposed to control who goes on and who desmt.

if he doesnt know what this committee has in place for transparency and selection shortlisting procedure ?

how the hell can he comment ??

and why is it called "independent " when the president forms part of this committee.
so many questions.... so few answers....

Cretylus · **Posted:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:42 pm

....just remember ladies and gentlemen, if this resolution is passed on the 18th December, EVERY single non INC endorsed candidate in future elections will effectively result in a challenge to the sitting board and its president.

In addition, the club opens itself up to potential litigation and claims of discrimination.

The club does not need these constitutional changes and it certainly doesnt benefit the rank and file membership

.....even the committee's name has been spun with the word "Independent" and we have heard words such as "transparency and accountability" associated with this farce

Heavs · **Posted:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:44 pm

It's a franchise. Has been for decades. It's like choosing between red tie and blue tie federally. Just enjoy the game and hope we win a few.

camel · **Posted:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:58 pm

Synbad wrote:

well....i cant help im the brains in here...

Not everyone has a need to big note themselves.

If you knew everything you thought you knew that would actually be something.

Try losing the ego and you might find you'll have someone else to talk to instead of alienating so many people with your tired chest beating and answering your own posts.

Your signal to noise ratio is way off!

Synbad · **Posted:** Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:50 am

You can it that. But it's just the truth camel

People here aren't in tune with the things that impact this club.
That's why it's crap.
For instance look at yourself. When was the last time you analysed anything about this football club?

Anything whatsoever...

People need things pointed out to them.. Like points that will be impacting this club for decades and who to take notice of when they post... Just in case their confused and have no idea.

People don't like the truth it's uncomfortable.
But it's just the truth.. Why hide it?
You should try and be relevant. We all should... There is nothing wrong with it even if it's 'prick'ly..
Stand up!

camel · **Posted:** Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:52 am

Synbad wrote:

You can it that. But it's just the truth camel

People here aren't in tune with the things that impact this club.
That's why it's crap.
For instance look at yourself. When was the last time you analysed anything about this football club?

Anything whatsoever...

People need things pointed out to them.. Like points that will be impacting this club for decades and who to take notice of when they post... Just in case their confused and have no idea.

People don't like the truth it's uncomfortable.
But it's just the truth.. Why hide it?
You should try and be relevant. We all should... There is nothing wrong with it even if it's 'prick'ly..
Stand up!

Fenwick Snap · **Joined:** Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:00 pm **Posts:** 715

I'm liking the passionate Synbad over the 'it's hopeless' one. Prod prod prod, camelboy. :grin:

Thanks to all for the debate on here. It's a shame that most members won't even notice there was something to vote on.

teagueyubeauty · **Joined:** Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:28 am **Posts:** 6450

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Cretylus wrote:

camelboy wrote:

James Hird supporters secure Essendon*** board positions through social media campaign
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/j ... 256f5.html

As always, the comments section is the best.

Essendon** are one of 4 AFL clubs that have a Nominations type committee or filtering system that endorses candidates to run for board positions. It shouldnt surprise anyone that there was only one Essendon** candidate running in that election who openly called for Hird to step down if the players are banned.

Our sensible club, the mighty Blues will be following that constitutional change, with its own Nominations committee headed by the independent Club President :wink:

, if the resolution is passed at the AGM on the 18th December.

All it proves Cret is that your ridiculous rhetoric is nothing but dribble.

If you want to run for a board position you can, I highly doubt the "well" credentialled people would have been recommended to the board as worthy candidates

Cretylus · **Posted:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:45 am

teagueyubeauty wrote:

Cretylus wrote:

camelboy wrote:

James Hird supporters secure Essendon**** board positions through social media campaign
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/j ... 256f5.html

As always, the comments section is the best.

.

Essendon*** are one of 4 AFL clubs that have a Nominations type committee or filtering system that endorses candidates to run for board positions. It shouldnt surprise anyone that there was only one Essendon*** candidate running in that election who openly called for Hird to step down if the players are banned.

Our sensible club, the mighty Blues will be following that constitutional change, with its own Nominations committee headed by the independent Club President :wink:

, if the resolution is passed at the AGM on the 18th December.

All it proves Cret is that your ridiculous rhetoric is nothing but dribble.

If you want to run for a board position you can, I highly doubt the "well" credentialled people would have been recommended to the board as worthy candidates

Of course you can still run for the board..... You just won't have the blessing and endorsement of this so called InDEPENDENT nominations committee, who will have constitutional powers to place additional requirements upon any hopeful candidates. Essentially a candidate who doesn't have the endorsement of the INC becomes a challenge to the presidency and the board members.

You can marvel at the system operating at the magnificent EFC* and it's well informed membership base. I prefer to throw that system in the bin.

And if you are a member you are entitled to vote for this supremely democratic and forward looking constitutional change on or before the AGM.

The constitutional change if voted in, will almost certainly be exploited down the track by a board and/or president and I am sure there will be current supporters of the revolution squealing the loudest.

robertbb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:06 pm **Posts:** 9354

Cretylus wrote:

teagueyubeauty wrote:

Cretylus wrote:

camelboy wrote:

James Hird supporters secure Essendon***** board positions through social media campaign
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/j ... 256f5.html

As always, the comments section is the best.

.

Essendon**** are one of 4 AFL clubs that have a Nominations type committee or filtering system that endorses candidates to run for board positions. It shouldnt surprise anyone that there was only one Essendon**** candidate running in that election who openly called for Hird to step down if the players are banned.

Our sensible club, the mighty Blues will be following that constitutional change, with its own Nominations committee headed by the independent Club President :wink:

, if the resolution is passed at the AGM on the 18th December.

All it proves Cret is that your ridiculous rhetoric is nothing but dribble.

If you want to run for a board position you can, I highly doubt the "well" credentialled people would have been recommended to the board as worthy candidates

Of course you can still run for the board..... You just won't have the blessing and endorsement of this so called InDEPENDENT nominations committee, who will have constitutional powers to place additional requirements upon any hopeful candidates. Essentially a candidate who doesn't have the endorsement of the INC becomes a challenge to the presidency and the board members.

You can marvel at the system operating at the magnificent EFC** and it's well informed membership base. I prefer to throw that system in the bin.

And if you are a member you are entitled to vote for this supremely democratic and forward looking constitutional change on or before the AGM.

The constitutional change if voted in, will almost certainly be exploited down the track by a board and/or president and I am sure there will be current supporters of the revolution squealing the loudest.

Clearly MLG (or someone who reports to him) reads this forum. Got this email (as I'm sure we all did) an hour ago:

"Dear Robert,
There continues to be some misunderstanding and misinformation circulating about the proposed changes to the constitution. I wanted to take this opportunity to update members so that you are fully informed.

- Any member can still be nominated for the Board. The nominations process has simply been fine-tuned to provide greater accountability and transparency.

- The Independent Nominations Committee has been established to assess candidates and provide information to members about how the skills, knowledge and experience of each candidate may contribute to the Board.

- The proposed model is based on corporate best practice and governance. It has been adopted by a number of other clubs, including Hawthorn, Richmond, Essendon* and GWS, and the AFL itself

- The Independent Nominations Committee can only make recommendations – it cannot stop a nomination that complies with the nominations process.

- Members still have the power to appoint and remove directors. This is a fundamental right of the members and is not being changed in any way.

The Carlton Football Club is a proud and successful club and its members deserve a strong and effective Board.

Hopefully this further helps clarify any queries you may have had about the proposed changes.

Given the importance of the proposed constitutional changes to promoting transparency and good governance at the Club, I recommend the changes to you and encourage all members to vote."

Synbad · **Posted:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:35 pm

robertbb wrote:

Cretylus wrote:

teagueyubeauty wrote:

Cretylus wrote:

camelboy wrote:

James Hird supporters secure Essendon****** board positions through social media campaign
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/j ... 256f5.html

As always, the comments section is the best.

.

Essendon***** are one of 4 AFL clubs that have a Nominations type committee or filtering system that endorses candidates to run for board positions. It shouldnt surprise anyone that there was only one Essendon***** candidate running in that election who openly called for Hird to step down if the players are banned.

Our sensible club, the mighty Blues will be following that constitutional change, with its own Nominations committee headed by the independent Club President :wink:

, if the resolution is passed at the AGM on the 18th December.

All it proves Cret is that your ridiculous rhetoric is nothing but dribble.

If you want to run for a board position you can, I highly doubt the "well" credentialled people would have been recommended to the board as worthy candidates

Of course you can still run for the board..... You just won't have the blessing and endorsement of this so called InDEPENDENT nominations committee, who will have constitutional powers to place additional requirements upon any hopeful candidates. Essentially a candidate who doesn't have the endorsement of the INC becomes a challenge to the presidency and the board members.

You can marvel at the system operating at the magnificent EFC*** and it's well informed membership base. I prefer to throw that system in the bin.

And if you are a member you are entitled to vote for this supremely democratic and forward looking constitutional change on or before the AGM.

The constitutional change if voted in, will almost certainly be exploited down the track by a board and/or president and I am sure there will be current supporters of the revolution squealing the loudest.

Clearly MLG (or someone who reports to him) reads this forum. Got this email (as I'm sure we all did) an hour ago:

"Dear Robert,
There continues to be some misunderstanding and misinformation circulating about the proposed changes to the constitution. I wanted to take this opportunity to update members so that you are fully informed.

- Any member can still be nominated for the Board. The nominations process has simply been fine-tuned to provide greater accountability and transparency.

- The Independent Nominations Committee has been established to assess candidates and provide information to members about how the skills, knowledge and experience of each candidate may contribute to the Board.

- The proposed model is based on corporate best practice and governance. It has been adopted by a number of other clubs, including Hawthorn, Richmond, Essendon** and GWS, and the AFL itself

- The Independent Nominations Committee can only make recommendations – it cannot stop a nomination that complies with the nominations process.

- Members still have the power to appoint and remove directors. This is a fundamental right of the members and is not being changed in any way.

The Carlton Football Club is a proud and successful club and its members deserve a strong and effective Board.

Hopefully this further helps clarify any queries you may have had about the proposed changes.

Given the importance of the proposed constitutional changes to promoting transparency and good governance at the Club, I recommend the changes to you and encourage all members to vote."

so why do it fatty???

im sick of these blokes

and why try to sneak it through...???

why not introduce it prior ??GTFOH!!!

Cretylus · **Posted:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:57 pm

Me thinks the president and board is a little bit nervous about getting the 75% of the total vote to get this resolution over the line.

This is probably the first time he is lobbying members for their support.

if we vote this resolution through, we can have governance standards similar to the EFC*.

how did their 9 candidates fair in the election just the other day?

a better resolution would have been to make it standard practice to set up a proper recruitment panel for critical positions at the club like CEO, senior coach, development director.

This long time method of winks and back room secret deals is antiquated boys club garbage

Grow up Blues and join the 21st century

Synbad · **Posted:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:12 pm

i dont think hes nervous it wont get up.... its no secret... oligarchs havie been gifting members to the clubs by buying them for employees historically

thats a lovely bloc of vtes right there is youre aware enough to organise them

i think hes worried about further alienating the rest of us...

with "we are chaging the constitution but dont worry about it.. it doesnt mean anything.. we just did it!"

lol

the sheeples believe that...

Synbad · **Posted:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:17 pm

dont worry about a thing... were in the business of refining and tuning this club into a well oiled swiss watch...

just dont worry about a thing... and the 1.6 million losses mean nothing in the future if we molest... oops i mean refine the constitution....
Youre in good hands...

i mean... errrr.. we got your backs....!!

Clayman · **Joined:** Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:02 am **Posts:** 1770

Quote:

Dear Clayman,

There continues to be some misunderstanding and misinformation circulating about the proposed changes to the constitution. I wanted to take this opportunity to update members so that you are fully informed.
- Any member can still be nominated for the Board. The nominations process has simply been fine-tuned to provide greater accountability and transparency.
- The Independent Nominations Committee has been established to assess candidates and provide information to members about how the skills, knowledge and experience of each candidate may contribute to the Board.
- The proposed model is based on corporate best practice and governance. It has been adopted by a number of other clubs, including Hawthorn, Richmond, Essendon* and GWS, and the AFL itself

- The Independent Nominations Committee can only make recommendations – it cannot stop a nomination that complies with the nominations process.
- Members still have the power to appoint and remove directors. This is a fundamental right of the members and is not being changed in any way.

The Carlton Football Club is a proud and successful club and its members deserve a strong and effective Board.
Hopefully this further helps clarify any queries you may have had about the proposed changes.

Given the importance of the proposed constitutional changes to promoting transparency and good governance at the Club, I recommend the changes to you and encourage all members to vote.

Online voting closes at 6pm on Tuesday 16 December.
Kind regards,
Mark LoGiudice
President, Carlton FC

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

Describe how it makes the process more accountable and transparent?

Independent Nominations Committee - passed at AGM

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