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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:08 am 
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I'd say Rexy is firmly in the anti everything camp.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:00 am 
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Simon aka Simon Malthouse is his love child.


You wouldn't have said that last year. MM has given White some tough love. He was dropped from the senior side last year. MM would like him because he responded, didn't sulk, wasn't lazy, trained hard and does everything (and more) asked of him.

If MM is rewarding players who set a very good example to the rest then I have no issues with that. If MM is playing lazy players who are last on the track and first off and boozing to 5am then our culture is shot.

To build a high performance team, you often need to go backwards before you can move forwards.


Clarity in this thread won't be tolerated.

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Em,

So is it fair that Mick can bullshit to the members to humiliate Jeff ?

Humiliate?

The guy was out until 5am taking advantage of the club allowing him to go out for his birthday.

Mick was right yesterday when he said this club hasn't been successful for a long time and in order to be successful we need players who are committed. Do you expect Jeff to get off scot free for going out until 5?

As already established White will cop his whack if/when he is convicted.


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Rexy wrote:
woof wrote:
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So Simon White gets in a fight but is allowed to play while Jeff Garlett gets in a fight and is NOT allowed to play...

#PleaseExplain


I think one consideration is the time of night both events occurred.

Both got into a pub fight.

Both were good to go the next day for training.

Both were selected to play.

One of them gets suspended for being in a fight.

What's the truth ?

As already established, the club cannot punish White until the corts have their say. It is standard practice unless you want the AFLPA getting involved.

If only Jeff was with Yarran hanging with Syd Jackson on Saturday night...


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Em,

So is it fair that Mick can bullshit to the members to humiliate Jeff ?

Poor Jeffy, humiliated by Mick. Come on now... until the media ask questions submitted by members, I don't consider press conferences to be directed to me as a member, AFL "journalists" don't deserve the whole truth for some of the questions they ask and it needs to be understood that press conferences go out to everyone, not just members, but opposition teams etc. Mick's an old hand at this and won't just throw his cards down on table, and why should he? For you? Because you're a member? If you ask someone at the club I'm sure you'll get the members' truth.

Nothing wrong with a bit of foxing. If you knew enough about opposition teams (and none of us really do) you'd know all coaches do this - it's hardly like Ross Lyon is holding up coaching strategy sheets at press conferences and allowing access into his office post-game, and I reckon Collingwood supporters probably complain that Buckley isn't a straight shooter either. All coaches tell the truth and tell lies and you're never sure which is which.

Maybe Jeffy was in the mix, maybe he wasn't. If he was, cop that - he didn't demonstrate the right attitude to keep his spot. If he wasn't, who cares that the media think he was? How do you even know Jeffy knew if he was or wasn't? Mick could be telling the truth, he could be lying, I really couldn't care less when it's to AFL journos. The facts are that Jeffy's not showing he wants to play with the big boys and hasn't for quite some time. His future at Carlton is in his hands.

Gday Couttsy.

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Scotty12000 wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Em,

So is it fair that Mick can bullshit to the members to humiliate Jeff ?

Poor Jeffy, humiliated by Mick. Come on now... until the media ask questions submitted by members, I don't consider press conferences to be directed to me as a member, AFL "journalists" don't deserve the whole truth for some of the questions they ask and it needs to be understood that press conferences go out to everyone, not just members, but opposition teams etc. Mick's an old hand at this and won't just throw his cards down on table, and why should he? For you? Because you're a member? If you ask someone at the club I'm sure you'll get the members' truth.

Nothing wrong with a bit of foxing. If you knew enough about opposition teams (and none of us really do) you'd know all coaches do this - it's hardly like Ross Lyon is holding up coaching strategy sheets at press conferences and allowing access into his office post-game, and I reckon Collingwood supporters probably complain that Buckley isn't a straight shooter either. All coaches tell the truth and tell lies and you're never sure which is which.

Maybe Jeffy was in the mix, maybe he wasn't. If he was, cop that - he didn't demonstrate the right attitude to keep his spot. If he wasn't, who cares that the media think he was? How do you even know Jeffy knew if he was or wasn't? Mick could be telling the truth, he could be lying, I really couldn't care less when it's to AFL journos. The facts are that Jeffy's not showing he wants to play with the big boys and hasn't for quite some time. His future at Carlton is in his hands.


Future all ready been decided. Mick is playing it beautifully and coming out smelling like roses.
Will make it so much easier now to sell the trade and to trade for next to nothing.

ps. Garlett didn't/isn't helping himself but that is not the point of discussion.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:06 pm 
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Does anyone else think (like i do) that MM tricked Jeff into staying out till 5am?
I have heard he paid the blokes up to beat Jeff up too.
All part of his master plan to get Jeffy out of the Club.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:14 pm 
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Does anyone else think (like i do) that MM tricked Jeff into staying out till 5am?
I have heard he paid the blokes up to beat Jeff up too.
All part of his master plan to get Jeffy out of the Club.



I heard the same, also that Mick personally tipped off the media to ensure full coverage and humiliation of Jeff was guaranteed.


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emtwenty wrote:
Rexy wrote:
woof wrote:
Rexy wrote:
So Simon White gets in a fight but is allowed to play while Jeff Garlett gets in a fight and is NOT allowed to play...

#PleaseExplain


I think one consideration is the time of night both events occurred.

Both got into a pub fight.

Both were good to go the next day for training.

Both were selected to play.

One of them gets suspended for being in a fight.

What's the truth ?

As already established, the club cannot punish White until the corts have their say. It is standard practice unless you want the AFLPA getting involved.

If only Jeff was with Yarran hanging with Syd Jackson on Saturday night...

Jeff hasn't been convicted of anything... not even charged, unlike White, yet he apparently gets suspended.

Micks story doesn't make sense.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:18 pm 
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Who said anything about suspended? Has Jeffy been told he isn't playing NBs this weekend?

So far I've only heard Mick say he was considering bringing Jeffy in but now won't. Hardly a suspension.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:23 pm 
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So why does Mick have to comment? Internally Garlett could be told he missed out on senior selection because of his late night and needs to learn form that but why do we need to tell all and sundry? Especially when he wasn't charged or involved in the altercations.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:26 pm 
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Who said anything about suspended? Has Jeffy been told he isn't playing NBs this weekend?

So far I've only heard Mick say he was considering bringing Jeffy in but now won't. Hardly a suspension.

No, he said he was in the team on Monday.

The protection racket is inn full swing today.... can't even question him !! :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:27 pm 
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Maybe this isn't about the altercation. Maybe this is about Jeffy being out at 5am.

Shocking theory, I know.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:28 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
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Who said anything about suspended? Has Jeffy been told he isn't playing NBs this weekend?

So far I've only heard Mick say he was considering bringing Jeffy in but now won't. Hardly a suspension.

No, he said he was in the team on Monday.

The protection racket is inn full swing today.... can't even question him !! :lol:


So Mick said Jeffy wasn't in the NB team this weekend? He's suspended from all footy activity?


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Scotty12000 wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Scotty12000 wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Em,

So is it fair that Mick can bullshit to the members to humiliate Jeff ?

Poor Jeffy, humiliated by Mick. Come on now... until the media ask questions submitted by members, I don't consider press conferences to be directed to me as a member, AFL "journalists" don't deserve the whole truth for some of the questions they ask and it needs to be understood that press conferences go out to everyone, not just members, but opposition teams etc. Mick's an old hand at this and won't just throw his cards down on table, and why should he? For you? Because you're a member? If you ask someone at the club I'm sure you'll get the members' truth.

Nothing wrong with a bit of foxing. If you knew enough about opposition teams (and none of us really do) you'd know all coaches do this - it's hardly like Ross Lyon is holding up coaching strategy sheets at press conferences and allowing access into his office post-game, and I reckon Collingwood supporters probably complain that Buckley isn't a straight shooter either. All coaches tell the truth and tell lies and you're never sure which is which.

Maybe Jeffy was in the mix, maybe he wasn't. If he was, cop that - he didn't demonstrate the right attitude to keep his spot. If he wasn't, who cares that the media think he was? How do you even know Jeffy knew if he was or wasn't? Mick could be telling the truth, he could be lying, I really couldn't care less when it's to AFL journos. The facts are that Jeffy's not showing he wants to play with the big boys and hasn't for quite some time. His future at Carlton is in his hands.

Gday Couttsy.

Howdy bluegirl.


Great Scott!
You are trying to humiliate rexy by suggesting he is me?
bravo,
well played sir.
:beer:
I think trying to stuff folks into tiny black and white boxes is kind of silly, and unhelpful.
I've certainly given credit to the coaching staff after matches where we've played well and as a team.
I've been trying to point out that even if you think MM is a super coach, you don't have to like or defend the way he goes about things.
It just happens, that he's done an awful lot of dislikable things. :grin:
If you need a scapegoat though , do please carry on
do please carry on. :wink:

I really like what Jim has to say, although, I reckon, to his credit, MM has gone away from his around the boundary, stop start style. They do use it a bit, but he seems to have adapted to the strengths of our players, which I certainly like.
As for GarTlet...
SurreyBlue wrote:
So why does Mick have to comment? Internally Garlett could be told he missed out on senior selection because of his late night and needs to learn form that but why do we need to tell all and sundry? Especially when he wasn't charged or involved in the altercations.


fair point, I reckon. :thumbsup:

cheers, bluegirlrexy72

good on you Surrey, really good point.

(this is kind of fun..I usually amuse myself reading others crap back and forths..but what the hey.)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:45 pm 
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Jeffy hasn't done enough to warrant senior selection for some time, and his last game for NB's was no exception. Even if he had, the teams aren't announced until Thursday and there's a few major training sessions to get through between Monday and Thursday.

Mick's clearly using this as an opportunity to send a message to the rest of the group, *not* Jeffy.

And for those whinging about White being handled differently - as if treating players in the seniors different to those playing NB's is a revelation. How many times did Fev f*ck up with no reprimand? Bootsma was chopped as soon as we could get it past the AFLPA. White's not Fev, he's a "good ordinary player" who responded to the challenges set before him (terrible injury), who tries his heart out and leaves nothing on the park. That's why he's in, Jeffy is not.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:54 pm 
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I thought MM was being a great bloke by playing him in the twos,
so he'd escape publicity. :lol:
It's sooo confusing.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:07 pm 
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Blame everyfink on MM!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:12 pm 
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everyfink!!!!!!
yeah!!!!
do it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:25 pm 
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MM does everyfink wrong. Bullshit mate

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