Everybody knows and understands the drafting record of our club - and the problems existed way before even Wayne Brittain,

Player Development, strong leadership, a club culture of honesty, workrate etc - everybody knows the jargon. We use to have it. We lost it....

I don't blame Ratts or Sticks or this person or Oligarchs on boards for our current state. And I don't blame Mick either. Its very much a club issue. I do like comparison though - and the Hinkley/Malthouse comparison is a very interesting one don't you think?

Take up your frustration with Mr S if you think that Ratts destroyed the club.

Remember Laidler is a prime example of a Ratts recruit that leaves, and is instantly a regular starter in a team that Mick has said has the best list depth EVER in the history of the game - what does that tell you?

(incidentally, I wont be annoyed if you don't answer or respond to my questions or posts - The Great Cretylus-Synbad polemic will continue ladies and gentlemen)

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That's a no, gotcha. I don't need to talk to Synbad because you choose to deflect.

What does Laidler getting a run in the Swans backline as third banana tell me after being cut from Carlton for not being up to it? It tells me when premiership defender Alex Johnson returns from LTI that the stopgap Laidler will be cast to the 2s for the remainder of his time at the Swans unless he wants to find a fourth club.

You like stats...how'd he go tonight? 9 touches, no impact. It's easy for a player in the bottom six (probably bottom 2) of the 2012 premiership team, a team a game clear on top of the ladder coming off 12 straight wins, to be hidden and hidden well.

Laidler is the scraping of their backline barrel, a stopgap and nothing more, and we were right to cut him. The difference between Sydney and Carlton is that they have 19/22 guns on the field with reasonable depth and development...we have 5/22 at best, and even they are flaky. We simply don't have the team to carry a Laidler, and I can't see him doing any better than a Rowe or White at this point in time...he's certainly not doing better than that for Sydney.

Sydney hiding Laidler by playing him every week? You having a laugh?

Playing every week he might be Verbs, but at what impact? Would his performance (or lack thereof) be more or less obvious at Carlton right now? When I say hidden, I mean to say his deficiencies and his lack of impact on the game are insulated by the breadth of talent on the field already. He's very rarely isolated at Sydney either - their structure effectively 'hides' him.

Where does he rank out of their back 6 Verbs?

For a serious, a very serious premiership threat, to play someone week in week out would indicate he ranks pretty bloody highly.

I just don't think they have anyone in reserves right now that can get 10 touches to Laidler's 9. That doesn't mean they have a depth crisis like we do, it just means that 1 out of their 22 is a little questionable but with the structure and talent they have, it ain't no thang. We've got over half that 22 questionable.

They must have a serious depth crisis if they are only playing Laidler because there is no one else good enough. You are having a laugh. Carry on.

Tell me how amazing he's been this season - really burning down the house right? If you're gonna come in and play second fiddle to Cretylus, at least bring more than "he must be good if he's playing every week in a premiership side."

I don't know what you mean by playing second fiddle. I don't have to prove anything. Laidler is playing every week for currently the best side going around. He'd walk straight into our side without a problem if the coach hadn't written him off. He's doing for Sydney what he did for us in 2011. Nothing spectacular but playing his role week in week out and contributing to a winning team. It's pretty simple really. If he was so shit, he'd be playing in the reserves. Since he's not shit, with a bit if luck he'll have a premiership medallion, and he'll have Mighty Mick to thank for that.

Laidler is a permanent fixture in the premiership favourites backline. A team that has won 12 in a row.
A team that according to Malthouse has 17 or 18 players that would get a game with most other sides.


You're taking the piss surely.

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Players don't get along with coaches at times. It happens.

I think Longmire is trolling us.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Maybe we should thank MM.

Who knows how many flags the Pies might have won if he hadn't been coach.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

There'll be a grain of truth to it but dumped players aren't known for their objectivity. See Beaumont and his "scientific" brick curling.

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I still feel MM should see out until the end of his contract because:
a) I don't want to see another $1M pissed away from sacking a coach
b) I want the club to put talented people around Mick instead of the ship of fools there now. Mick's a damn good coach, but it was typical CFC short-sightedness to think that just adding him to that crew would change anything.
c) MM's clearly been a good mentor over the years, and a smart club would've set up a natural successor the instant they signed him. But not us. And shame on us for throwing shitloads of money at one person rather than shoring up our entire coaching dept.

Too much of the previous regime still exists to blame MM alone. He was hamstrung from the start and never had what he had at Collingwood. Give him some decent tools to work with and see what happens. If he still fails, I'll be the first to wave him on his way.

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#GUILTY

I find the protection racket run here by some for the $3,000,000 man interesting when he has so clearly failed in the judgement of the lists capabilities and the task he accepted with great confidence.

Surely people can see the current financial agreement with Mick is now in need of renegotiation and restructure...?

Unfortunately Rexy, when we signed MM we also took on his baggage.

We now have three dud coaches, a fitness guru and Micks personal kick to kick partner to pay for.

It will cost another 3 mill to get rid of them all.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

there are always crap players in premiership teams even

happens in every flag


happened before the salary cap
happened after
they let go of a 200,000 year everritt .. brought in laidler...at 70k

why?
because they had the other bases covered

we dont have bases covered.

laidler isnt as good as docherty or everritt for what we need.
hes slow
you saw us last night....why would we need another slow? and how do we cover for him also?
in among the drafting profile of our clubs recruting how would we cover that guy?
doesnt mean we need laidler
he would add and compound our problems

its all about seeing the big picture.. i know its difficult but try

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this club is a mess and I am yet to understand why an independent review hasn't been undertaken, would be the logical way of commencing the process of transforming this club

it beggars belief that we are continually banging our head against a brick wall and expecting different results

to sack Malthouse now would continue our ineptness, wait until late next year and make an assessment then

ive been saying we need a review for 5 years
and im not giving them any money till they do

Cret.. u have 26 hours to hand in your homework.

the two drafting records over 6 years please...

dont hand it in late.. or ignore it...

you have been shown your show cause letter

or you become a InCredblus

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