18 mtgs ago I'd have said the same about Fitzy. But his handling of the drugs scandal has changed my mind.

I'd only agree with the 'saviour', if they could guarantee me a fully independent review of every position in the club and a guarantee to act on the recommendations.

The current board have achieved nothing. We have no 'brand', we set no standard, we have no direction, we deliver no innovation.

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Everything before the word "but" is horseshit - J Snow

What could have Fitzy done differently with the cheats from Tullamarine? (and that saga hasnt finished yet)

An independent review is definitely needed - something the club has NEVER done before. (the cats did it around 2006 and never looked back since - still competitive and will again go close this year)

It must be a truly independent review.

I remember attending the first AGM that Collo headed when his board took over from Elliott, just over a decade ago.

He promised an independent audit of the club's financial position and records....

Who conducted this audit? Ernst and Young. The very same auditors and financial advise company that he club has used for many years.

I raised my hand to put a question to Collo. "You have conducted an independent audit of the clubs financial position, but have used the same auditors we have always used - how is this audit independent?"

I recall Collo not hearing the question, so I had to repeat it from the second row mind you. Collo's reponse was superb - in true political tradition said nothing, avoided the crux of the question and moved along...

Several questions later, a senior member from the Unofficial Selection committee, raised the question again......We even discussed it further after the meeting was concluded

Dont hold your breath for a truly independent review of all aspects of the club being done...not with the current administration...

they may do a review which is nice and soft and provides the right answers and scapegoats they wish to see take the fall for the mess...

(in any case, can you imagine Mick Malthouse submitting to a review? He doesn't even answer questions he doesn't like from the media - recently a journalist wasn't even allowed to eat a sandwich during a press conference. He treated him like a primary school child. And the journalist didnt even respond. I am not which is more pathetic the Mick tantrum or the pathetic weak response by the journalist. A review wouldn't work on Mick, he would probably go on leave during the review)

The best we may get is a Ziggy type investigation, where nobody is blamed except for some vague reference to governance problems, poor documentation and experimentation with exotic substances... nothing pinned down, nobody named.... its all in the ether, that mysterious gas that pervades everyone and cannot be resisted or countered... its the ether's fault, but almost everyone then resigns.

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Vice President, International Extreme Sarcasm Society (IESS)

We don't need a dead pan like Fitzy as President.

We need a vibrant character willing to draw the curtains back, open up the place with an all embracing ability to publicly draw support from all sections of the football community.

Who's this Farouh fella?

GET FAROUH!

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"I had to eat"

that says it all....no idea of background >>>>therefore appoint him President

Very sought after executive - lucky to have him on the board - even if he is an isolated loan voice (from what I hear)

Not sure if he needs to be the President though (dont know much about his personality or whether he wants the head role and public attention- but he should be pulling lots of levers and pulling strings in the background at least)

Ahmed Fahour

Ahmed Fahour is Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer of Australia Post. He has extensive experience as a successful leader and dynamic reformer at corporations in Australia and overseas.

Ahmed commenced his professional career at Boston Consulting Group (BCG) in 1987, where he consulted on a range of major commercial projects including mergers, acquisitions, corporate vision and strategy. He became a director of BCG in 1997.

In 2000, Ahmed was recruited by Citigroup and moved to New York, where he worked as Head of Corporate Development and, later, as CEO of Citigroup Alternative Investments - as well as serving on the company's Global Management Committee. He was subsequently appointed as Citigroup's CEO for Australia and New Zealand.

In 2004, he joined the National Australia Bank (NAB) as an Executive Director and Australian CEO. Under his leadership, there was a major turnaround in the bank's performance and its wealth management subsidiary (MLC).

He was appointed Managing Director and CEO of Australia Post in early 2010. Within three months of arriving at Australia Post he launched the Future Ready program - a major business renewal program that involves seizing the opportunities of the digital economy.

Ahmed is currently a Director of Pro-Pac Packaging Ltd, Methodist Ladies College (Melbourne) and the Carlton Football Club. He is also an Adjunct Professor in the Faculty of Business, Economics and Law at La Trobe University. He holds a Bachelor of Economics (Honours) from La Trobe University and an MBA from the University of Melbourne.

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Vice President, International Extreme Sarcasm Society (IESS)

We need a Kochie!

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

Vibrant.
Energetic.
Positive.
Progressive.
Media savvy.
Engaging.
Someone who knows how to connect with the public.

Eskander seems to fit the bill.

I've no idea what sort of person he is but his public persona is very similar to Eddie and Koshie.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I read somewhere that Ahmed Fahour's Australia Post work commitments would prevent him to becoming the President of the CFC

Next!

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

I know who Fahour is.....wasn't sure if he was linked to Farouh.

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"I had to eat"

From the Annual Report:

1. I do not see what money he brings into Carlton
2. He attended 73% of the Board Meetings in 2013

Why is he a "lone voice"?

We don't need a messiah. What we need is a ground-up rebuild where every position is scrutinized and up for grabs. Our problem is development and our dependence on one person to solve all our problems. That needs to change, and quickly. Mind you, a new president is a good idea and my selection, if it was a person who has a philosophy of the collective is Ahmed Fahour. That's my view anyway.

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1945 - End of round 3 Carlton was last.

Last round Carlton made the final four for the first time.

Eventual premiers.

That's what I'm talking about!

I agree wholeheartedly with Barrett on TFS today...


This thought makes the bile rise.............

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

What did he say?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

everything...

1. Divided board
2. Board too large of 12 - got rid of 1 director for questionable investment with Murphy and Gibbs
3. President must resign now
4 Swan must resign now
5. Elliiot still having some influence
6. Visy setting the Board control
7. Agrees with Mathieson
8, Stuck in the 1980's
9. We are rabble

Tom Elliott would be ideal - 3 votes. An absolute standout IMHO. Media profile, passionate, very sharp, connections etc. And FFS, it won't mean that 'ole Jack will run the joint.

Ahmed must stay and I'd sacrifice my first born to have Harold Mitchell's savvy and connections on the board.

Elliott is not coming
Farouh is not getting it
Mitchell does not want it

No good changing Presidents if the Pratts and Mathiesons are still pulling the strings.

Filthy pack of leeches masquerading as benefactors.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

In a nutshell.

And on the on-field side of things, I agree with Lloyd....an even dirtier proposition.

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

I'm sure MichaelJezz can clarify whether this is true or not.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch