There is a bigger Issue with our team that not many on TC has brought up, which is the Fact that this Season and also some parts of last Season, We have become a 12 goal a game Team. We are badly struggling to kick more than 12 goals a game, even when we Win, we are not kicking any score beyond that!!

The Issue is not the Forward line. With players like Waite, Henderson & Gartlett, we should be kicking a lot more goals....

The Real issue is the fact we are getting Smashed in the center bounces and in the middle by a Ratio of 80-20%. That is massive and it explains why we can't compete. Almost 80% of our Goals have to be constructed from the backline and often from a behind kick in. Having players like Cripps and Judd back will change that ratio. We need to change our structure in the middle. No more Murphy or soft players in there. We need to Win the footy and start kicking Fast Goals.


Another thing which complicates our deficiency to kick goals is MM's style of play in which he likes to play Wide and with short kicks until a Forward ends up marking it in the Pocket and with an Impossible task of kicking a Goal. We are not skilled enough to kick goals from tight angles. Going Wide will not help us. We need to go back to playing basic Footy. Kick it Long and play on at all costs. Do not mark, stop and chip chip. This killed us all of this year!!!

Ugh... he went in for the ball guys, and got no help in that respect. Was dead on his feet for chunks of the game.

Ins "you don't care" as you obviously "don't care" where Robbo's disposals go to either.

Bill, our team is not capable of possession footy. We do not have the skills to play that style...How many times did we Turn it over by just chipping it short? We can't even kick it 20m out in front....We have the worst Kicking team in the comp.

Opposition teams in the last 3 rounds all have played spare Men behind the ball and they killed us but the question is, where the heck was their opponents? and what were our Spare men doing? they were no where to be found. Its Dump Football. We need to Man up every spare defender and kick it long 50-50 and Create a contest!!

The other option which we have not been doing is play on at all costs and keep the game running. Possession football is suited for teams like hawthorn and Freo... not us

were slow
we dont work hard
we dont have skills
cant mark
hate body contact

Remember when we were the quickest team in the league? It was about two years ago. Since then we've only lost Betts.

Playing conservatively doesn't suit the players at our disposal, and if we're going to f*ck it up I'd prefer to do so having a crack through the corridor as opposed to hugging the boundary and kicking it out on the full.

While Ratts was certainly not the answer, the irony is that we'd be pretty well suited to the current trend if he was still at the helm.

its not about fast .. its about endurance....
which is why Essendon** did what they did

100 meter runners dont enter the 1500 meter races

though if u see 1500 meter runners in the flesh theyre super fast.. just not lightning ... but the sprinter cant do it over 1500 meters

this is where were confused again

Endurance is one aspect of it, particularly when defending, but being a quick team has more to do with ball movement than foot speed.

We currently look slower than we actually are due to this boundary hugging game style. No one is prepared to take risks for fear of consequences, which translates to no run which means no options and hey presto = turn over city.

We have a lot of obvious deficiencies but we're playing into the oppostions hands. We're not good, but we're not this bad either.

i agree..but when u have 17 odd players having a total of TWENTY ONE operations... its going to take a toll.
why?
because there is nothing in the ressies to call upon except for slow inside mids
failed early picks
and hbfer types (if we havent already delisted most of those)

u see.. were forced to play who were playing
buckley for pace comes in
lucas has had many opportunities
casboult cant run
carrots comes in because we need leadership

were devoid of what other clubs take for granted....

how did we get here?
we had no plan... for year after year

yes we can drop bell and bring in graham
we can drop ellard and bring in holman
we can drop rowe and bring in casboult

the result is the same isnt it?
none are amazing creative ball users.. none have a huge tank.. none are fast
temay has endurance but thats about all... vanilla as they come..
nothing new can be added to the playing squad

youre just fiddling around the edges

hard to undertand??... do i draw pictures???

again. i am short with people.. but try to be logical

I just don't have a wood over Wood.

..our foot skills are poor, but there's a very easy way to help it.. ..it's called work rate.. ..if team mates run and spread and create space, it is easy to 'hit them up' with a pass.. ..and your foot skills look good.. ..if there is no separation, if there is no space, if there is always out numbered contests, laser kicking won't help.. ..hawks kicking is good, but not elite,, their work rate is what is elite.. ..it's a lot easier to short pass the ball to a leading team mate in space running at ball carrier..

its not about fast .. its about endurance....
which is why Essendon** did what they did

100 meter runners dont enter the 1500 meter races

though if u see 1500 meter runners in the flesh theyre super fast.. just not lightning ... but the sprinter cant do it over 1500 meters

this is where were confused again