In fairness I don't blame Capuano.

I have said it numerous times before. Look what happens when a "Ruckman" is given the No.1 role on their own. I thought Hampson was good last night as was Warnock. Jacobs has thrived, Minson, Goldstein etc. Look at young Nichols from GCS last year. Starred when Smith went down injured and had to do it himself.

Ruckman need to play in the ruck and stay in the ruck.

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.....Mumford when he went to Sydney, Maric in 2012 at Richmond, etc etc. Agree 100%.

Only similar combinations to ours that work are Bellchambers/Ryder and Cox/NicNat and not one of our rucks has the right mix of athleticism or forward ability of any of these guys.

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..krooz is our ruck, unless we destroy him.. ..trading in knockers was the big mistake.. ..his tap skill isn't as good as ppl talk up, it's ok but talk of him being a dominant ruckman is optimistic.. ..whatever skills he had after tap have been nowhere for a while now, they used to be ok.. ..but 4 yrs, and big dollars on such an inexperienced ruc threw what ever ruc strategy we had right out the window.. ..knockers can never be part of a ruc combo cos he can't do anything but ruck.. ..and he can't carry a ruck load by himself.. ..he is to ruck, what Waite is to kpf.. ..ppl just get seduced by his height..

..yes rucks thrive when getting good game time in the ruck, I agree with this.. ..and we have seen krooz play very well as main ruck, yet we all too often stagger his main ruck consistency with fad part ruc roles, which do not suit him.. ..sooner or later ppl will realise that knockers is a mirage, and if we trade out krooz we will regret it, even if a tiny part of me hopes we do so he can go on to success elsewhere..

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..let me clarify.. ..ryder was a kpp that managed to become a ruck, though you don't want him fulltime rucking.. ..but as a kpp first and foremost, yes he ought to be better around the ground than a ruck.. .otherwise it's only bellchambers that is very good up fwd, and he is.. ..otherwise, krooz for fwd work last season does just as well, and in some categories even better.. ..and he does it without the benefit of good kpf around him.. ..themreason our ruck combo struggles is it isn't a true ruck combo.. ..knockers will still ruck the lion share cos he can't play anywhere else, that is a true ruck comboit is knockers ith krooz back up and that is a waste..,

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Big K is injured. Yarran can still become a star. Let Gibbs go, get the two first round picks, get a key position player or two.

Should have some cash to throw at Frawley. It's really not as far off as you all seem to think.

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..if via free agency it was a swap of Gibbs for frawley, every day of the week.. ..we wouldn't have any compo pick, but a talked up strong kpp draft and a pick around 10 (give or take a spot or two either way), and we ought to snare a very good kpp and frawley allows hendo fwd..

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Oh yeah forgot that. Probably will end up with a top 10 pick. That extra KPP is what matters the most right now.

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..depends if we go total rebuild or renovate, and naturally of our chosen path can then be carried out.. ..I think we can turn it around, but we need to get smarter with how we reshape our list and what characteristics we choose in the players we want to carry us ahead..

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How many players on our list contribute week in week out for 4 quarters?

How many would get a game for Hawthorn?

We simply don't or can't make the tough decisions on our players. We live in hope and get excited by cameo efforts but in the end we don't have many that are week to week AFL level footballers.

We really need to bite the bullet and trade and delist. Anything else is more mediocrity.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Agreed about the cameo performances.

If I had to pinpoint one aspect which has disappointed/ infuriated me the most over the last decade and a half. It's the cameo performances and complete lack of consistency.

Players playing on their terms because it's tolerated and allowed.

Also add, not playing for the jumper, because they've never been educated as to what our jumper means.

Agree because at the moment the club and the jumper stands for very little.

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Those days are gone.

These days we need players who are professional in approach to week to week preparation and consistent performance in the role they're given.

Ryder was a ruckman that learned to play KP in the AFL

Well, we need to bring those days back.

Apologies if this is the wrong thread.

I'd like to see us go after a Darling/Stringer type.
Neither of those are going to be let go by their clubs.
Lewis Johnston from Adelaide is similar size and is a straight kick.
He could be looking for opportunities when Walker comes back for the Crows.
Might be able to pick him up and not break the bank.
Won't be the answer to our problems but could come in as a handy player.
Thoughts? Anyone know much about him?

Apologies if this is the wrong thread.

I'd like to see us go after a Darling/Stringer type.
Neither of those are going to be let go by their clubs.
Lewis Johnston from Adelaide is similar size and is a straight kick.
He could be looking for opportunities when Walker comes back for the Crows.
Might be able to pick him up and not break the bank.
Won't be the answer to our problems but could come in as a handy player.
Thoughts? Anyone know much about him?

How about all-round talent and lots of it. Kicking skills is the new black (I say, sarcastically).

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Hughes is gone ,lets renovate ,gibbs is our main bait see what we can get.Goodbye ellard,mclean,trade robinson.Give casbolt to footscray for apick. This is when the professionals getting paid the bucks at carlton have to get it done.If was a recruiter look at 3 things must kick 45 to 50m with ease,not on the slow side bit of pace. strong body.Eg tall 196 with pace cause if slow at 18 he wont get any quicker,middy strong body with pace .Anyway hope our recruiters get it done this year port did.

I was told 6-9 months ago that there was going to be major changes to recruiting department but little has happened. When Hughes was sacked I thought "was that it?" he was demoted anyway and wasn't doing much.

Needless to say I was disappointed as I see it as our biggest issue alongside our total List Management.

However, the jungle drums are getting louder and it seems there is some real movement on the recruiting front. Our list is poor and our coach is pushing for change. If what I am told is correct there will be a near total revamp of the recruiting department by years end.

We need players that are near AFL ready and can use the ball very very well. No obvious flaws and no long term projects.

Let's be honest, it's desperately needed and I hope it happens and I hope they get it right. PLEASE!

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