Should change your username.

TheHindsightRecruiter

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dane's trolling again

Yes not like I don't give my opinion prior

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Fine, take up your criticism with the selections before Duigan. I'm not defending them.

Siposs and Seedsman are hardly world beaters.

IMO Duigan was a worthwhile selection and at the end of the 2011 season I think any rational supporter of Carlton would have agreed wholeheartedly.

Please, point me to your post or posts immediately after the 2010 draft that said we should have selected Siposs or Seedsman instead of Duigan.

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In addtition you hadn't mentioned Siposs on TC until today and Seedsman until 2012.

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Seriously? WOW

Why do I have to prove anything? For what reason? I never said I know better?

I'm just sick of the constant stuff ups and mistakes. I'm a supporter and entitled to an opinion.

The point is we can't get it right and things don't change. That's the frustrating part if you're paid for such a role you should be accountable

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

As a general concept I'd agree that our recruiting has room for improvement. Or maybe it's our player development, or both?

Have you compared our recruiting in depth against all other clubs? Are we the only club making mistakes and poor choices?

Just don't come here after the fact and pretend you always judged Duigan to be a dud, which is pretty much what you did a few posts above. It's a piss weak approach to be so assertive with the benefit of hindsight. It just makes your opinion look foolish, especially when it contradicts what you've said in the past.

I understand opinions change, I get that, but it's pretty clear you had no problems with Duigan's recruitment at the time and now you're sprouting a whole bunch of crap that makes it sound like you were.

I have no problem with you or anyone else criticising the club, just be balanced and reasoned about it. Is that a fair enough request?

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Having an opinion is O.K. I guess

Having an informed opinion is much better though. So much better.

How many people have an "informed" opinion and why is it necessary on a forum?

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

And camel brings da buuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnn!!!

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Why is it necessary to attempt to dominate forum discussion when you clearly have no interest in investing in and communicating your own thought process, or genuinely engaging in that of others?

So far this is a page of you saying "we should do better; look at what they did."

The only problem is that we did better than them up until this point. And pointing at a bloke getting 30 games at the Saints with the way they are playing, as well as a bloke who has 22 games for the Pies with the lack of quality they have in the bottom half of their list. That they've accrued that in 3 seasons is no better than a bunch of also-rans at many clubs including Carlton.

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29 different attributes,
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20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

The Psych chop-out/defence team arrives in 3, 2, 1 ....

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
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They shit me no end

Got to agree with you. I love Doogs, loved his first season in navy blue, especially his goal against Geelong that season, and the fact he re-invented himself last season but he's lasted only 3 years.

Granted a kid we may have taken at his pick could've been a busted flush but after 3 years that kid would've started to push for continued selection if he was any good.

Hindsight is always 20/20 but we need more return from our draft picks than 1 full season, 2 interrupted & looking like 1 full season taking up a spot with no return.

I'm hoping big time that he tried his utmost to get back but that the knee let him down. He always struck me as one of the best guys to have around the club so with any luck he and the club aren't messing eachother around. Best of luck Doogs in whatever path you now take.

We should have drafted Raso or Tiller again.

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..actually Camel, i think Doogs to date has played more games [??] than all the players drafted in his year, combined.. ..i also think he'd have continued to add to his tally [if not by too much] if his body would have allowed him to play further..

..Psych, it didn't work out too well longterm due to body issues, which can happen with any draftee, but i think it was something of an inspired selection myself.. ..at pick 70, a seasoned and experienced state leaguer is a good short term stop gap selection.. ..he added maturity to our list, and leadership.. ..42 games, with some match winning performances [elim final!!] out of a pick 70 draftee is a success.. ..in regards to players like siposs and seedsman, who knows.. ..obviously not on our radar, but there's possibly better picked players after them as well [rookie draft usually turns up at least a couple every year].. ..thing is, after pick 50 odd in the national draft, it's very much hit and miss.. ..what Doogs gave us at pick 70 over 3 years on little coin [am assuming] is a good return/investment..

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..don't know for certain, but i think the return we got out of Doogs is well above the 'average' for a 'circa pick 70 draftee'.. ..how many players?? [not just kids but even older types] have we as a club drafted that have done better than Doogs around his 'pick' [not including F/S selections].. ..feel free to go back to the turn of the century, further if you can be bothered..

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Go on...

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If a player can't fulfil their contract then that contract should be null & void without payment moving forward, including TPP on our books.

If we hadn't of made the finals then Duig's would have been an unlikley contracted player for 2014, or he would have been back at pre-seaon training 2 weeks earlier so he could have made a decision before the drafts. Blame the Players Association here. He should have been back at training Nov 4th like the good old days.

..like to see you try and implement that, when the reason the player can't fulfill their contract is due to injury incurred at/for the club..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

He can play on, he's choosing not to. See the AFLPA for post career recourse and/or suitable insurance policy they should have in place.
He's likley been playing football since a wee child, we can't take the hits for his pain. All players have injuries throughout their career from juniors to amateurs to the AFL. He gets paid for the training thus far that he's attended and contract is over & the balance is out of the TPP.
I'm sure we'd offer up a job in development or physcology to him but that should be outisde the TPP and into the football dept.

In fairness, Psych has always been pretty good at nominating the players he likes before and after the draft. He deserves credit for that. Lots of others don't have the courage to do so and be judged three years later. We'd all be none the wiser on his backflip on Duigan if he hadn't committed it to writing.

Just goes to show though that opinions change, we all get it wrong from time to time and its all easy in hindsight.

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