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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:15 am 
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I have said it before Waite could easily play wing and go to CHB or CHF if needed. Given the nature of the sub that gives us great flexibility during a game. An opposition coach that has to match up with Judd, Murphy, Robbo, Simpson, Ellard, Carrots and Curnow now has to find a different match up for Waite. That adds a different dimension to our side and would stretch any opposition. Also, his ability to drop back and help against a Cloke or Dawes would make our developing defence even better.


I have always been a fan of this scenario Psych. :thumbsup:
Thanks for bringing this up again. I love it. It's a luxury.
I have no doubt its a possibility if all our players are healthy and available for selection...and in form.


I have no doubt this will be tried. After seeing Kreuzers game on the weekend i have soften my stance against it. I still think including the extra tall has only a small chance of adding value to the team but a bigger chance than i thought last week. Seeing Kreuzer rove to Hampson a couple of times and play as a follower for a few mins a quarter changes things up a bit.

I am still all for this high pressure thing we have going. Best team in the league without the ball. Would hate to see it compromised.

Its going to be interesting watching tactics unfold.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:59 am 
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jimmae wrote:
Ellard did very little last week other than snag his two goals, which is disappointing considering how much time he spent in the middle, and with the injection of Houlihan into the side last week we can try a few different strategies using Garlett, Scotland and Yarran to help supplement the midfield a lot more alongside him.


If Ellard's right to go, I would have thought he's almost certain to play on Priddis. He's played on him before, and he's the perfect match up.

If Houla stays in, I think he'll go to Hurn (instead of Carrazzo), in the kind of role he did so well in early last year.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:03 pm 
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teknodeejay wrote:
You can't drop a guy who has one of the coolest theme songs ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdbjH7Zf_6k


I really pity those who have eighties nostalgia. It almost defeats the purpose of what nostalgia is all about. :grin:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:03 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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I have said it before Waite could easily play wing and go to CHB or CHF if needed. Given the nature of the sub that gives us great flexibility during a game. An opposition coach that has to match up with Judd, Murphy, Robbo, Simpson, Ellard, Carrots and Curnow now has to find a different match up for Waite. That adds a different dimension to our side and would stretch any opposition. Also, his ability to drop back and help against a Cloke or Dawes would make our developing defence even better.


I have always been a fan of this scenario Psych. :thumbsup:
Thanks for bringing this up again. I love it. It's a luxury.
I have no doubt its a possibility if all our players are healthy and available for selection...and in form.



In time they will listen to us BB as they have with Touhy and Yarran! :grin:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:10 pm 
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Ellard had an extremely poor game (6 disposals) against Sydney. Would not hurt to give him a rest anyway ... freshen him up.

Ellard out ... McLean in.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:10 pm 
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Ellard definitely playing says Ratts, Waite not sure yet.

http://twitter.com/Carlton_FC/status/83718373980127232

Also, Duigan not playing due to a calf injury!

http://twitter.com/Carlton_FC/status/83719036319432704


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:19 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
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I have said it before Waite could easily play wing and go to CHB or CHF if needed. Given the nature of the sub that gives us great flexibility during a game. An opposition coach that has to match up with Judd, Murphy, Robbo, Simpson, Ellard, Carrots and Curnow now has to find a different match up for Waite. That adds a different dimension to our side and would stretch any opposition. Also, his ability to drop back and help against a Cloke or Dawes would make our developing defence even better.


I have always been a fan of this scenario Psych. :thumbsup:
Thanks for bringing this up again. I love it. It's a luxury.
I have no doubt its a possibility if all our players are healthy and available for selection...and in form.



In time they will listen to us BB as they have with Touhy and Yarran! :grin:


You're doing well with your predictions Psych. I reckon they are listening to you.
I wasn't 100% into Tuohy because I hadn't seen enough of him, and preferred Armfield. Better the devil you know.
What I have seen in the last 2 weeks from Tuohy.....jeeesus christ...he's a natural, and a beautiful kick.
He ot only keeps Army out of the backline (and maybe the teaam) but he releases a strong bodied and pacey midfielder in Russell.

I love the list and the team we are fielding on a week to week basis, but by no means am I stuck on it.
I'm all for flexibility and improvement.
And every week our playing stocks improve with the exposure (experience) and physical develpment (Cordy factor).

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:19 pm 
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Rusty to go back and cover for the Duigan loss.

Bring in Armfield to cover Rusty's position further up the ground.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:23 pm 
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Is Laidler ready to come back in?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:25 pm 
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club29 wrote:

Seeing Kreuzer rove to Hampson a couple of times and play as a follower for a few mins a quarter changes things up a bit.

I am still all for this high pressure thing we have going. Best team in the league without the ball. Would hate to see it compromised.

Its going to be interesting watching tactics unfold.


I posted a few years back that my ideal scenario would be the luxury of Waite and Walker on the wings (Psych has been on this for a while too), and Kreuzer ruck roving to the super fast ruckman Hampson (who also can rove) as both are great with their 2nd and 3rd efforts.
Add Judd and Murphy to the midfield mix and that leaves our 2 other 1st rounders in Russell and Gibbs as our trump cards.


It's all coming together.

I don't think for a minute the MC would jeopardise our strengths over the opposition....maybe confise them even more, but not jeopardise.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Laidler when he's back.

I like the way Ratts has a preference to tackle WCE's height advantage with our speed advantage, when we could easily match them with height if Waite were to be selected.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:30 pm 
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Good calls by Psycho but half this site had the Yaz to half back in mind once he got the tank up. Touhy was a no brainer and again most folk who have watched him play were just waiting for him to get a chance.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:47 pm 
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Hamson and Kreuzer against Cox and Nattanui would have been a classic.
Maybe it happens in the Finals.
Meanwhile if Setantta takes his cue from Hamson who takes it from Kreuzer – who knows what could happen?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:47 pm 
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@ BB

Our Dream (Premiership Team) Team?

B: Touhy Jamison Duigan
HB: Yarran Bower Gibbs
C: Waite Curnow Simpson
HF: Garlett Henderson Robinson
F: Betts Kruezer Walker
Foll: Hampson Judd Murphy
Int from: Ellard Scotland Russell Houlihan Carrazzo

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:55 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Good calls by Psycho but half this site had the Yaz to half back in mind once he got the tank up. Touhy was a no brainer and again most folk who have watched him play were just waiting for him to get a chance.



and Fevola being sacked and Stevens retiring...................... :yikes:

Time will tell on ROK & Mitchell. My two major predictions. :cool:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:18 pm 
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So Duigan is out, I hope Laidler is back. Vision of him training indoors on the jumper day with a knee heavily bandaged. If not Laidler, Bower. I think against this mob we can play three larger backmen.

Anyway, Jamo goes to Josh, Houlihan goes to Hurn and Russell follows Le Cras everywhere. Le Cras has been playing up the ground in the mid field more this year, just like Jordy.

The Weagles can then worry about our other, 18 + sub, players.

People trash Knockers for the missed goal, but turn it around. He is such an awkward size that that is why he got the free kick. Corey or whoever couldn't get to the ball so hit him in the head. In a forward press like these guys supposedly play, his height, resting down in the forward line will be important. He has proven that he can take marks in the forward line, just please, keep making the contest. Has he played 50 games yet? (Also the hugs for some reason has a crush on him so it is easier to get her involved with footy when he is playing. And she has a crush on Walker and Juddy and Duigan and Gibbs and Hammer and.... Got to keep her away from the changerooms).

Our defence is a team. It is so much more noticeable this year. Thornton has stood up and is a vital part. I reckon it is his spot to lose. In saying that, so long as the defence keep handpassing it to Yaz, all is good in the world.

I reckon at the start of the year, you could have imagined our forward line as Hendo, Waite, Eddie, Jeff, resting ruckman and Walker. I doubt there is a team out there that could handle that combo. That to me looks the right blend of height and speed.

Ahh options. Go Blues.

Oh yeah. Please don't bronx cheer Carlton players. We don't do that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:32 pm 
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I thought the AFL introduced a rule that if a player got concussed he could not play the following week.
Therefore Ellard should not be playing!!!

There was a lot of talk at the start of the season about this. Has this been changed?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:43 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
@ BB

Our Dream (Premiership Team) Team?

B: Touhy Jamison Duigan
HB: Yarran Bower Gibbs
C: Waite Curnow Simpson
HF: Garlett Henderson Robinson
F: Betts Kruezer Walker
Foll: Hampson Judd Murphy
Int from: Ellard Scotland Russell Houlihan Carrazzo

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Id go with something similar. Not sure id play waite on the wing ahead of scotland this season. We will have to wait and see. Can waite get to as many contests, run as hard and as long, is he drilled on hard running both way and the spread, will he be able to win the contested ball at ground level and most importantly will his pressure act numbers be up higher than your average midfielder?
On the plus side he will probably take a couple of marks a game we probably wouldnt take if he wasnt in there.

Waite on the wing would work well in a team with a gameplan like the current Crows one or the one Melbourne plays. They try to win the ball back in their back half and use the space infront of them to attack. We want the ball back quicker than that. Less space but enough because our fowards are so zippy.

Nice lineup all the same psycho. Its a bit different to your lineups of a month back though?

PS Touhy v Laidler would be an interesting discussion for the MC.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:50 pm 
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I always thought ThePsychologist's theory on Yarran was that we wouldnt amount to anything because of his flawed psychological profile?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:52 pm 
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With Duigan out and Ellard OK to play my changes would be as follows:

Out
Duigan (inj)
Hampson (inj)

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Armfield
Warnock

- Give Waite another week to ensure he is 100%
- Armfield as sub
- Houlihan the defensive half forward on Hurn
- Move Russell back to defence in Duigan's spot

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:01 pm 
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BlueRob wrote:
I thought the AFL introduced a rule that if a player got concussed he could not play the following week.
Therefore Ellard should not be playing!!!

There was a lot of talk at the start of the season about this. Has this been changed?

That's not correct; if a player is suspected of concussion, he can only resume on the field once he has submitted to testing by the medical staff and cleared of any and all symptoms, otherwise he is immediately subbed (if available).

They then test again during the week as per previous years using a repeated stress test designed to assess memory and cognition. They set up baseline comparisons for this in the pre-season and the player needs to score the same or higher repeatedly before deemed fit to play (along with any scans taken coming back all clear).

Ellard was checked out of hospital after 4 hours of observation, and hasn't had a problem since. That said, I still think he should be dropped. :P

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