It's only an idea for discussion, but the only way to force change is by applying force. The aim would not to overthrow the board but to put people onto the board who have specialised skills and have the time to commit. For instance -
*Who is the Public Realtions and Marketing expert on the board?
*Who is the membership and fund raising expert?
*Who is the expert in Facility & Real Estate development?
*Who is the expert in forward planning?

If people with these expertise don't exist, I ask how can they effectively monitor the people they employ to do these roles?

I'm not on the attack, I'm raising matters for thought, because, like everyone here, I care.

Hit.

Nail.

Head.

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79Vintage wrote

Not Jacks fault Collo wants us at his dome. Jacks been gone for 3 years now get over it.

Well, I'm going to be on my footy club's "board" (we call it a committee) next year, and I was also nominated as one of only four for the Best Clubman award, which puts me almost on par with Kouta...so all up I'm going to be way more qualified to talk about all these things then anyone else here.

Be warned!

Can we get Fevolution on the board?

At least we know during the Trade Period he will do his darndest to get everyone and anyone to Carlton.

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Good idea. You can be our media sl... I mean spokesman.

Really, how 'inciteful'.

Your post was pretty good 79 but you had to throw your little Elliott jibe in. Elliots long gone now we move on.

Elliott's gone but the board still has to deal with the state he left the club in.
Give it another year and I'll agree his off field influence can't be used as a reasoning for problems, on field is another matter - there's still 3/4's of a generation of player's careers left on that meter.

Vintage, You bring up some very good points. But i have noticed that when your club is flying everything is good, but when your down it has serious negitivity(sorry to bring out the obvious). The reason why i dont like Collo as the president is because he brought Carlton to TD, when we could of had the best ground in Aus and maybe the world.
He had a conflict of interest which hurt the club. CArlton should of gone to the MCG or stayed at Optus (We need a definate home ground). Of course the new admin is going to blame the old but this is why we need to move on and stop blaming and start kickin ass like Carlton was made to do. I love the Collective marketing of the new face of Carlton rather than Kouta wit Fev etc

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It was the AFL as much as Collins who wanted us at TD.

I think Collins is too negative in the media, crying poor all the time. Difficult circumstances though, he needs fans to be aware of the situation we're in.

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My opinion for what its worth :
Elliot and his Legends stand debt servicing is the main were in the shite now financially, and will be for many years servicing the debt.
If we went to the Dome when the Bombers did and built proper players facilties instead of the stupid away supporters who never came stand things would be very different now.
The current board has lost some momentum, and Collo has been unwell, but really not much more you can do unless we win some games and sell corporates and sponsors some hope. I think the marketing revenues were actually pretty good this year-which is amazing.
Don't confuse "footy show" and oh Fev's a dill marketing with real dollar returns. Corporate packages sold out, GF lunch sold out, new sponsor Dan Murphy's, continued Optus support.
Take our medicine now and plan to charge forward in two years time, I'm pretty happy were headed back up the J curve.

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Nothing. It doesn't involve giving up your job either. Collo is still boss of TD. Others have their own jobs.

This Board & Administration lost me last year with the gutless decision process they went through in moving us from OO to TD.

Nearly everything they promised at the time would happen has either not happened or is far below the expectations they raised at the time.

How is the ground re-development going? This was a key part of the propsal that the AFL would support the re-development of OO into an elite traing facility. Doesn't look any different to me.

The move was supposed to secure the clubs short and long term futures. That is debatable.

The move was to (and I quote) "underpin(s) the club's resurgence both on and off the field. Not looking good so far is it.

Significantly higher attendances. Probably has been so tick here.

Increased revnue opportunities and significantly increased FTA coverage. How many Friday night games in 2006 v Collingwood who finished 2nd last?

Provide Social Club facilities at TD and MCG. Not sure on this one but from all reports only average.

The worst commercial decision ever by the club (lead by a President with a massive COI) is underpinned by a 10 year deal. 10 years! Unbelievable and most fell for it.

I agree that we all support a club but Brand building is everything. We have done a poor job on this.

The Board and Administration has been a huge dissappointment for mine. The sooner they are challenged the better.

Add to that Kermit the split for next year being 8-3 towards the TD.... Despite assurances that it would be 6-5 for the next nine years (and certain board members worked hard to get that many G games).

AFL takes some blame, but the club must have signed off on it. Commonwealth Games just an excuse. Massive COI, couldn't agree more.

there's a difference between Conflict of Interest and Competing Interests. I don't think Collo has a CoI, so much as Competing Interests, and maybe he hasn't received good advice as to how to make sure they don't appear as a CoI, or don't become one.

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Just on the financial status of the club. Don't forget some very important things:

1) Carlton's assets were massively overvalued on the books when the new board took over
2) The club had significant debt (over $10,000,000)
3) The club had no option but to relocate from Optus because it couldn't afford to maintain the ground on its own, and the AFL certainly weren't going to help (even in terms of fixturing). This meant another significant asset writedown.

Considering the true financial position of the club when the new board took over, judging the financials at 3/10 is ridiculous. I'm not arguing that the club is completely on top of things, but they have been in survival mode, and that won't last forever.

However, I would agree that marketing has been especially poor, the external impression of the club is poor by modern standards.

What the club NEEDS to do this year is:
- Improve communication - The club has consistently said that it is in the 3rd year of a five year plan. Great, so set some benchmarks and publish then so that the board can be held to account.
- Work out what we are going to do at Optus. This might take a while, finances, design, planning permission, etc. But at least tell the members when the timeframe for all of these things are.

At the moment it is possible that the board is doing a very good job and not communicating it. It's also possible that the board is completely crap and that the lack of communication is testiment to a lack of ideas. Experience tells me that the truth is somewhere in between.

The one thing that the CFC needs to sort out, though, is its communication with members. Communicate often and in various ways. Without this, no matter how good the board is there will always be mumurring and disquiet. If memory serves this board promised increased transparency, this is the year to demonstrate it.

In regard to communication: The Club has improved by providing e-mail updates to member and doing member surveys. I like the idea of e-mail updates to members (especially for cost reasons) - however the content of these e-mails is quite poor - mostly news we can read in the papers or onthe web site the next or same day. So there is improvement in channels not so much in content.

hey free ghostly ermials is a good thing! Though i understand about recieving a Mke and dan or a Geek as an email - whamo spamo if you ask me...ask for the buzz... well, flies buzz...

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

To the point as always.

Further to the whole vibe scenario, I feel this is built piece by piece from small parts making a greater sum. Kind of like a team really. At the start of the year things were looking good with the Mickey Mouse Cup win. People were excited, but without some of the other pieces in place the vibe, as well as the team's performance dropped off.

Later this year we'll get a nice nudge with the draft, having #1 and #4 picks will enthuse many around the club. However, to help the vibe along we need to know a clear plan for rebuilding the team, we need to know a solid direction for promoting and rebuilding the club off the field, in other words a vocal board with a united vision, and we need the players to be consistently playing with passion, honour and commitment.

If we can't put all those things in place then I think we'll be on a longer road to success than we'd care to think about.

In my mind there is no doubt that Collo's ticket was the right choice for the time. However, while some aspects of their tenure has been good, I think there are a few other aspects that could improve.

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