With all due respect, what rot.
Firstly, the trade period has not even started yet. We need to be clear about what we want and what we're prepared to give in order to get it. And we need to know our best alternatives. We don't need to be basing our decisions on who likes us or not. nd we don't need to trade for the sake of it. We should only trade to make us better. Replacing plodder A with plodder B doesn't help.
Secondly, of all those you mentioned, only Daisy would be worth going hard for. And if he stays at the Pies, I'm not too fussed either b/c his high price would affect our ability to pay for others down the track, if not immediately.
And the way I think of it, if we don't get Daisy that reduces the pies chances of getting Adams (who would be a pretty good get...)
Dal Santo - seriously? Could you imagine the uproar if we went after Dal??? I'd rather give Nick Stevens a call to see if he was ready to play again!
Jesse White might be ok at the right price but I reckon Casboult will be better than White who has only shown sporadic value despite more time in the system, with the best coaches and culture and with more 'talent'.
Staker would be a role player - happy either way. Delaney won't cure our problems.
And Shaw would take us back 5yrs to the days of Fev.
Docherty would be nice but again, depends on the price.
Oh, and Eddie - most of us have said we want to get rid of one or all of the amigos. eddie has the least upside and we stand to get a 2nd round draft pick for him if he leaves + extra salary cap room. not the end of the world.

We are not a basket case. We were a couple of kicks of finishing top 6 (twice against Essendon*, 1st game against richmond, should have beaten bulldogs & saints).

Let's just see what unfolds before we hit the panic button.

Think you missed my point....
Hawks and longer...
Adelaide and betts.....
Crameri and dogs...
My point is, clubs chase players and get the job done..
Saying it's only day one of the off season is exactly
why we are in the position we are now, you wait for no one
period, hell hawks were playing finals and were stilling chasing
longer....
Snooze and you lose......
Don't care about dal santo champ, again my point is
Name a player besides judd and he's millions that have said
Yes I would love to play for carlton and I hope I get to carlton....
Can't name to many that have said carlton is my club of choice...
Why is that, reckon synbad would be on the same page as me,
The club is a joke, only a few kicks away from finishing in the top 6, please
I nearly shagged 10 girls the other night, then I realised I had to pay for them...
We made finals thanks to Essendon*, played our bitches in tigers,
We have a long way to go, that's all I am saying..

I agree we aare long way away.That why this trade period is so important for our club.If we do it right and change our game plan and the most important fitness and strength we can become top 6 side i believe.

The sky is falling in. We are screwed.

Arrrrgh his and he's rear their heads again.

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I stopped reading after you declared Geelong premiership hero Varcoe a dud. Post has no credibility if you liken Bower and Hampson to Varcoe.

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Hate trade period and think free agency will totally change the game for the worse. Never liked Greg Wells in a Carlton jumper and don't want our team filled with one year mercenaries or mummies boys who are too scared to live away from home. I think as we get closer to the lack of player/club continuity of other football codes and with so much FTA live footy we are dissipating the elements that made the game so great and so tribal.

I don't mind players changing clubs for opportunity but FA will make the AFL into a merry go round. I wonder whether Aaron Hamill regrets failing to be a 100 game player at any club. I think one of the great intangible strengths of our game is slowly being eroded. Perhaps the Cats will be the last great team of predominantly one club players from the draft.

Still don't mind Warnock going. He is not really one of ours, just came for the money, has played less than 50 games in 5 years at the club, is rising 27 and on huge dough, good work if you can get it!. He is a good tap ruck man, but can't mark and can only be a #1 ruck. He has currency. We got Big K as a #1 ruck, that is all he is, let's not condemn him to being an ordinary forward. I don't want to lose Hammo as I think if he had a good run at #1 ruck he would be quite good, he is not, and never has been a fwd. But Big K is the man, so Hammo needs to go for opportunity. He is a Qld boy, cd we engineer some swap/ deal for Longer who is still developing?

Warnock and Hammo are our genuine trade bait, both capable of being decent first rucks, and teams without rucks are desperate for them, and they play a position we have covered.

We need to turn Levi into the fwd ruck. He has a way to go, but is a vastly superior mark to any of our rucks.

Disappointed to see Eddie go. He has been a terrific player for us. Had a poor year this year, but some supporters have short memories. We don't seem to fissed about keeping him. I certainly wouldn't pay huge money for him, but he might stay for less if the coach wanted him to.

I think Daisy will stay at the Woods. Hate to see him at Carlton with dodgy ankles on $150k pa more than Simmo.

Trouble is we have a desperate and dumb committee who will mortgage the future for some hope in the present.

Be v. disappointed if Buckley gets delisted. How about we try and develop players.

I recall Mick saying that over 70% of our list changes would come from this years draft.

Now that's a little concerning considering how a number of people have mentioned that this years draft is pretty weak and doesn't bat deep at all.

And with our poor recruiting record, I'm even more worried now.

Derick Hine said on radio today that mid to late draft picks this year are not as valuable as previous drafts.

I'm not to worried about losing Betts. From what I'm hearing about the 2014 draft, we will be very lucky to be able to activate the compensation pick we receive top in 2014 draft

Eddie Betts compo pick must be used this year.

You hear the same thing every year. This year's draft doesn't run deep. Its very even after the top few picks. But next year's draft is the greatest ever. Go back 12 months and you could just about copy your post word for word. I reckon its just gamesmanship to discourage teams activating their compo picks and that one extra pick that these recruiting blokes have to get their bloke through to get to them.

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Thought he said 2015 was THE draft.

Sam docherty wants to come to carlton, get him...
Was just a little upset yesterday, think you could tell..
So many rumours, just want our club to complete with
the top clubs....
Time will tell, hope we can land some quality young talent..
Thomas and docherty is a good start, followed with our first pick...
Then add menzel and graham things are not too bad...

Think id prefer adams to daisy. Extra 6 years and we need big bodied mids.
fully fit daisy is elite though

So GWS has said they are willing to part with Pick 1. Wonder if we go for it?

I would make Adams our number 1 priority.

Wish Daisy would make up his mind quickly, as I dont want us to concentrate too much on him and let other opportunities go.

He has made up his mind.

Its totally up to us now.

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They coud'nt.....could they?

I have a feeling Daisy will be done with (one way or the other) fairly soon.

Was he not meeting with Collingwood early this week? He's already met us. The final piece may be Buddy announcing his move, which might incline Hawthorn to get involved. End of this week should see daisy out.

If we somehow manage to acquire Daisy and Adams, that's a big step towards fielding a very competitive midfield next year. Throw in Docherty as a potential inclusion to free up Walker into the midfield high half forward role and all of a sudden there's some real run and grunt in the on-ball unit.

Worth remembering that the only thing that can happen before Friday is Thomas signing with Collingwood.

..interesting, i thought it was meant to be a decent draft, if light on quality talls early on..

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