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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:35 am 
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Rod Ashman

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Synbad wrote:
Judd is hopeless
Murphy is timid
Carrazzo is hopeless
New rules have rendered Robbo useless
Brock is slow and has a pop gun kick.
After that who have we go to shape up against the better cliubs midfields???

Keep in mind the midfield is old or getting old!


However we have no worries about half back flankers... even if we delist 6 this year... ontop of a few from last year .... no worries...!!!

Now THAT is what i call recruitment and list management...

So next year....
Carrazzo 30
Simpson 30
Judd 30/31
Scotland 34
McLean 28/29

Baasically we need 4 just to replace these guys.... forget about adding to them...

Scary isnt it?


No Syners...

Sticks says its all going fine.....

The Blue Print says we will win 2 flags by 2015.

Last night was an illusion... :razz:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:37 am 
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Jack donaghy your post is crap
Duigan is suspended and too slow for afl. Mick has passed judgement on him
Laidler too slow since injury
Casboult heaps of chances this year. Not fit enough cant play 4 qtrs,
Menzel given a taste. Yes should get a few more but is a preseason short
Graham agree but has been available for a month
Buckley agree but not better than amigos. Next year when we trade one
Bell is in our best 22 a mistake by mm. I think mm has issue with his defensive running
Your point on age is irrelevant.
Watson bootsma cachia Lucas rowe have all had chances


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:37 am 
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If you were building a list to win a flag...... there are very few players youd want from our list... lets not use small forwards theyre the cherry on the cae not the cake.. lets talk cake...
Right now..

Henderson
Walker
Kreuzer
Gibbs
Tuohy
Murphy*
Simpson
Cachia*
Jamieson*
McKiness*
Bootsma*

Thats 9 guys from a list of over 40 who are those players.. or can be those players...from our list of 43 or so.. when you need THIRTY

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:39 am 
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Blue Revival wrote:
Bigredisback wrote:
redback wrote:
George Harris wrote:
Dumb football! That's our game plan.

It took an Irishman to work it out and realize you break the press by kicking over it from 50.

What was with all the mangled short passes in the congested forward line when players could have had a shot instead?

Three amigos were useless with Yarran looking not that interested. They blanketed Henderson too and so no forward line.

Robinson has heaps of endeavor, but lacks the skill - time for a rest.

Murphy was non-existent, so where was someone to give Crowley a touch up? As for that other little flower Ballantyne, we were completely sucked in. And that's the ball game!



We have the weakest most selfish players in the league and probably the dumbest coach?
From the moment Murphy was crowned our captain I mentioned he would be targeted and from the first game he has been beaten from pillar to post.
Yes, he should grow a pair and !@#$%^7 defend himself (it’s bloody embarrassing) but his team mates have a responsibility to protect their leader.

This is the same in any other situation from a war to a government.

If they are lazy, stupid or incapable of fulfilling their duty of care then it’s up to the coach to enforce this policy.
This game has unfortunately re enforced my beliefs that Malthouse has made no inroads into this teams dysfunctional behaviour mental capability and there hasn’t been any improvement into creating a well rounded, tight and proud team ethos.

Not only has he has failed in structures, team selections and match day set ups but he has failed in the most basic area why he was brought into this football club, discipline.

If there is one area a new coach needs to improve a team to show his worth is discipline, hardness and hunger for the contest, well he has had nearly a year to do this and he hasn’t got anywhere near it.

You can harp about structures, lists and process as much as you like but this exercise has been a complete waste of money and time.

So who should be captain ?

Carazzo ! He shouldn't be in side

Dugian ?

Waite ?

Do tell

Simmo captain, Lachie vc. Easy

Come on simmo was barely in the side half way and has maybe 1 year left


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:40 am 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
Jack donaghy your post is crap
Duigan is suspended and too slow for afl. Mick has passed judgement on him
Laidler too slow since injury
Casboult heaps of chances this year. Not fit enough cant play 4 qtrs,
Menzel given a taste. Yes should get a few more but is a preseason short
Graham agree but has been available for a month
Buckley agree but not better than amigos. Next year when we trade one
Bell is in our best 22 a mistake by mm. I think mm has issue with his defensive running
Your point on age is irrelevant.
Watson bootsma cachia Lucas rowe have all had chances

Spot on


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:41 am 
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Simmo is a marvel the way he goes about it up against the physical freaks he's up against.

This season will take it's toll on him though.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:42 am 
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Bell ,People calling for him to come in is scary, him and robo in same side butchering the ball oh god


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:43 am 
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Bigredisback wrote:
redback wrote:
George Harris wrote:
Dumb football! That's our game plan.

It took an Irishman to work it out and realize you break the press by kicking over it from 50.

What was with all the mangled short passes in the congested forward line when players could have had a shot instead?

Three amigos were useless with Yarran looking not that interested. They blanketed Henderson too and so no forward line.

Robinson has heaps of endeavor, but lacks the skill - time for a rest.

Murphy was non-existent, so where was someone to give Crowley a touch up? As for that other little flower Ballantyne, we were completely sucked in. And that's the ball game!



We have the weakest most selfish players in the league and probably the dumbest coach?
From the moment Murphy was crowned our captain I mentioned he would be targeted and from the first game he has been beaten from pillar to post.
Yes, he should grow a pair and !@#$%^7 defend himself (it’s bloody embarrassing) but his team mates have a responsibility to protect their leader.

This is the same in any other situation from a war to a government.

If they are lazy, stupid or incapable of fulfilling their duty of care then it’s up to the coach to enforce this policy.
This game has unfortunately re enforced my beliefs that Malthouse has made no inroads into this teams dysfunctional behaviour mental capability and there hasn’t been any improvement into creating a well rounded, tight and proud team ethos.

Not only has he has failed in structures, team selections and match day set ups but he has failed in the most basic area why he was brought into this football club, discipline.

If there is one area a new coach needs to improve a team to show his worth is discipline, hardness and hunger for the contest, well he has had nearly a year to do this and he hasn’t got anywhere near it.

You can harp about structures, lists and process as much as you like but this exercise has been a complete waste of money and time.



Culture is hard to come by and easy to lose

If u think mm can change that in one season you don't understand football or business

A good culture takes years to develop and sometimes takes a major clean out

To occur


It's funny how you guys only understand an issue when someone else has a different point of view. :lol:

The only thing that can't be changed in a week or month in a football organisation is skill level, and that can be improved vastly with intense training and commitment.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:43 am 
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Rexy wrote:
Simmo is a marvel the way he goes about it up against the physical freaks he's up against.

This season will take it's toll on him though.

Simmo excellent second half of year

First half was very poor


Last month best footy of his career


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:44 am 
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Serge Silvagni

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redback wrote:
Bigredisback wrote:
redback wrote:
George Harris wrote:
Dumb football! That's our game plan.

It took an Irishman to work it out and realize you break the press by kicking over it from 50.

What was with all the mangled short passes in the congested forward line when players could have had a shot instead?

Three amigos were useless with Yarran looking not that interested. They blanketed Henderson too and so no forward line.

Robinson has heaps of endeavor, but lacks the skill - time for a rest.

Murphy was non-existent, so where was someone to give Crowley a touch up? As for that other little flower Ballantyne, we were completely sucked in. And that's the ball game!



We have the weakest most selfish players in the league and probably the dumbest coach?
From the moment Murphy was crowned our captain I mentioned he would be targeted and from the first game he has been beaten from pillar to post.
Yes, he should grow a pair and !@#$%^7 defend himself (it’s bloody embarrassing) but his team mates have a responsibility to protect their leader.

This is the same in any other situation from a war to a government.

If they are lazy, stupid or incapable of fulfilling their duty of care then it’s up to the coach to enforce this policy.
This game has unfortunately re enforced my beliefs that Malthouse has made no inroads into this teams dysfunctional behaviour mental capability and there hasn’t been any improvement into creating a well rounded, tight and proud team ethos.

Not only has he has failed in structures, team selections and match day set ups but he has failed in the most basic area why he was brought into this football club, discipline.

If there is one area a new coach needs to improve a team to show his worth is discipline, hardness and hunger for the contest, well he has had nearly a year to do this and he hasn’t got anywhere near it.

You can harp about structures, lists and process as much as you like but this exercise has been a complete waste of money and time.



Culture is hard to come by and easy to lose

If u think mm can change that in one season you don't understand football or business

A good culture takes years to develop and sometimes takes a major clean out

To occur


It's funny how you guys only understand an issue when someone else has a different point of view. :lol:

The only thing that can't be changed in a week or month in a football organisation is skill level, and that can be improved vastly with intense training and commitment.

Nope sorry culture doesn't work that way

Otherwise organisations like leading teams wouldn't have a business if one day fix


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:45 am 
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Bigredisback wrote:
So who should be captain ?

Carazzo ! He shouldn't be in side

Dugian ?

Waite ?

Do tell


Jamison, Simpson or Carrazzo. Can't blame Carrotts for injury, surely?
Playing Simpson, Gibbs, and Walker behind the ball is also an example off robbing Peter to pay Paul.
2 of our best ball carriers running outside the midfield ... While 3 taggers run as midfielders.
Speaking of Peter, how many small genuine defenders do we have in our side who can blanket the Ballentines of this world? Lets use walker as a tag? I've been quietly hoping MM would change this sooner rather than later but alas.......joke


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:50 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Bigredisback wrote:
So who should be captain ?

Carazzo ! He shouldn't be in side

Dugian ?

Waite ?

Do tell


Jamison, Simpson or Carrazzo. Can't blame Carrotts for injury, surely?
Playing Simpson, Gibbs, and Walker behind the ball is also an example off robbing Peter to pay Paul.
2 of our best ball carriers running outside the midfield ... While 3 taggers run as midfielders.
Speaking of Peter, how many small genuine defenders do we have in our side who can blanket the Ballentines of this world? Lets use walker as a tag? I've been quietly hoping MM would change this sooner rather than later but alas.......joke

Jamo form horrible


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:53 am 
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on a side note, looking forward to Jeff Geischen's explanation of the "jumper didn't rip by itself rule". Fair dinkum, these umpires are so precious

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:53 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Bigredisback wrote:
So who should be captain ?

Carazzo ! He shouldn't be in side

Dugian ?

Waite ?

Do tell


Jamison, Simpson or Carrazzo. Can't blame Carrotts for injury, surely?
Playing Simpson, Gibbs, and Walker behind the ball is also an example off robbing Peter to pay Paul.
2 of our best ball carriers running outside the midfield ... While 3 taggers run as midfielders.
Speaking of Peter, how many small genuine defenders do we have in our side who can blanket the Ballentines of this world? Lets use walker as a tag? I've been quietly hoping MM would change this sooner rather than later but alas.......joke


Here's a thought, a small fast tenatious player on our list that we may desperately need.

Maybe, we should give Buckley a shot, since it's not about win/lose and just the process.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:55 am 
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Bigredisback wrote:
redback wrote:
It's funny how you guys only understand an issue when someone else has a different point of view. :lol:

The only thing that can't be changed in a week or month in a football organisation is skill level, and that can be improved vastly with intense training and commitment.

Nope sorry culture doesn't work that way

Otherwise organisations like leading teams wouldn't have a business if one day fix


How long to demand accountability and responsibility?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:57 am 
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redback wrote:
Bigredisback wrote:
redback wrote:
It's funny how you guys only understand an issue when someone else has a different point of view. :lol:

The only thing that can't be changed in a week or month in a football organisation is skill level, and that can be improved vastly with intense training and commitment.

Nope sorry culture doesn't work that way

Otherwise organisations like leading teams wouldn't have a business if one day fix


How long to demand accountability and responsibility?

Demand them now and those who don't fall into line will be moved on


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:05 am 
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Bigredisback wrote:
redback wrote:
Bigredisback wrote:
redback wrote:
It's funny how you guys only understand an issue when someone else has a different point of view. :lol:

The only thing that can't be changed in a week or month in a football organisation is skill level, and that can be improved vastly with intense training and commitment.

Nope sorry culture doesn't work that way

Otherwise organisations like leading teams wouldn't have a business if one day fix


How long to demand accountability and responsibility?

Demand them now and those who don't fall into line will be moved on


So in essence you are agreeing with me?

What discipline has he demanded up to date?

How do you turn a losing culture into a winning one without accountability and responsibility?

How long do you need to demand standards?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:06 am 
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Synbad wrote:
If you were building a list to win a flag...... there are very few players youd want from our list... lets not use small forwards theyre the cherry on the cae not the cake.. lets talk cake...
Right now..

Henderson
Walker
Kreuzer
Gibbs
Tuohy
Murphy*
Simpson
Cachia*
Jamieson*
McKiness*
Bootsma*

Thats 9 guys from a list of over 40 who are those players.. or can be those players...from our list of 43 or so.. when you need THIRTY


I wouldn't include Jamison or Cachia.

Add to that Graham & hopefully Menzel and given our list I'd keep OKeefe.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:10 am 
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Synbad wrote:
If you were building a list to win a flag...... there are very few players youd want from our list... lets not use small forwards theyre the cherry on the cae not the cake.. lets talk cake...
Right now..

Henderson
Walker
Kreuzer
Gibbs
Tuohy
Murphy*
Simpson
Cachia*
Jamieson*
McKiness*
Bootsma*

Thats 9 guys from a list of over 40 who are those players.. or can be those players...from our list of 43 or so.. when you need THIRTY


What are the * ? Have they been injected?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:12 am 
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marcou wrote:
Also, Freo made our forward line look as congested as Myers on Sale day......while on the flip side they seemed to have the Martian landscape on there's.


It's called gut running.

How can we gut run when don't possess any guts?

And FFS, can some people stop blaming MM.

His errors this year have been cosmetic (3 rucks, Yarran sub, no Laidler, yada yada) For 2013, I'll cut him some slack and defer to his experience as to why he made those choices.

Our structural problems (and they've been discussed) existed well before MM.

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