There is no way we will secure the no.1 pick.

Forget about it. We would have had to trade one of Kruezer or Gibbs and they are now off the table

Watched a few Crows games this year.

Rutten isn't entirely past it yet.

Still a smart fullback who doesn't lose too many one on ones. Disposal is what you expect from an old-school fullback. Probably on par with Jamo in that regard.

The real concern is he has lost a yard of pace. He's smart enough to have tweaked his game a bit to cover it slightly, but still gets caught on the lead quite a bit.

Proved a durable player, but you'd get one year out of him and that's it.

i agree, no chance for tom boyd.
one of our problems is that we have a lot of similar type players;
curnow, cachia, bell, mclean, robinson and carrazzo not quick and average skills.
we have a few holes to plug, in no order,
1. key forward
2. key defender
3. mids
players that are in trouble, imo,
collins, o'keeffe, mitchell, davies, duigan, dale, joseph and ellard.
McCarthy i reckon will get another year.
laidler will get one more also, with duigan going maybe an insurance for our back line.
will scotland retire???
would GWS give up jaksch??? if so what price?? maybe yarran and robinson??? or yarran and warnock???
i would look at kieran harper from north.
i would look at david atsbury from tigers.
i would look at trading warnock and hampson with the view at chasing nathan vardy...
we have to be realistic at chasing players, don't want to sell the farm for a town house.
graham will add to our midfield next year, will buckley make it??? hope so....
would dale thomas fit into our midfield??? prob yes, but at what price, $650??? costs us no picks...
would be rapt if we could pick up.
nathan vardy, david astbury, kieran haper, dale thomas and kristian jaksch....
at the cost of,
yarran, robinson, warnock, hampson, second and third rounder..
still gives us our first pick to get the best available..
our team could look something like,
mcInnes jamison tuohy
walker astbury harper
thomas graham gibbs
garlett henderson menzel
betts vardy jaksch
kreuzer judd murphy
anyone from,
simpson, lucas, watson, bootsma
armfield, bell, curnow, cachia
casboult, rowe, carrazzo and our first pick.
buckley, temay, mccarthy and our all other picks will need some time.
white, laidler, mclean can all be back up depth players, waite will be a bonus if he plays at all..
harper is 21, vardy is 22, astbury is 22, menzel is 19, graham is 19, jaksch is 19, thomas is 26 and our first pick will be 18.
great age there, inject some talent whilst keeping the list at the right age, mix of youth and experience.
just some of my thoughts..

I agree with others though that our midfield depth is terrible, and desperately needs to be addressed. Judd, Scotland, Carazzo and Simpson will all be gone within the next 2-3 years, and there's not much coming through to replace them.

Yarran for Shuey - get it done ex WA for ex VIC

I would take that.

betts for otten

Gibbsy, Hendo and Bell were at my gym on Saturday for a promo. Got to say hi and great win to them. Was at the game Friday right behind the North bench/warmup/massage area on the fence. Asked Bell when he expects to be back for Northern and he said maybe within two weeks? His jaw was going pretty well he said. Told Henderson he was magnificent (I'm sure he already knows) and Gibbs that he needed to do better for my Supercoach... lost by 15 points. That's on you Bryce!

Not sure if they were headed to watch some of the Northern action.

Anyway I hope all three are guarantees on next year's list.