it does!!!!

i loved blueman

and i also love cimm calling me out on being off topic.. but turning threads here into n korea threads himself.......

someting about that lad that makes me piss myself laughing.....

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it is the best medicine god know's, you need it.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I heard a funny joke today.

A Melbourne player was reviewed by the MRP.

Fair assessment Rexy.

I think we can all agree that at best, the 2012 off-season didn't go as planned, and we were left severly pants'd when the time came to inject some new blood. Mick was definitely hamstrung when he arrived here, even with all the bluster and BS of the Cloke-saga, due to some pretty piss-poor player management from the previous group. It still baffles me how teams like Collingwood, Hawthorn and Geelong (hell, even Richmond) were able to make their squads even stronger while we couldn't afford to improve on this team that didn't make the finals. How the @#$%&! can those lists cost the same/less than ours???

No doubt we'll be active (or as active as we can be) in the trade/FA period this year, and to make some changes to our coaching department (the fact we're still stuck with John Barker says it all really). Hopefully Mick sorts out who is worth persisting with and who needs to go, and 2013 is a much more proactive and successful off-season. But if we leave this year with the same result, the same list, and the same questions, I think we would have great cause for concern.

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

Some of ours asking for (and receiving) too much?

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Yep I dig what you say and loved those stats but I'm talking 2013.

Lets not blame Ratts or MM on this one, nor the current group of coaches and look at the individual performances.

Players become game breakers because they want to be and then they are because they have got what it takes and an enormous will to win.

Only Judd has shown that will imo in 2013.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

The reason he couldn"t make a trade was due to our poor list management. Lets wait and see what trades are done come the end of this season.....I dare say there will be multiple trades and yes MM will more than likely play everyone on the list to ascertain who can play the way he wants them to and who can't....

We got beaten by a Team that MM put together, drilled and disiplined and took more than just 5 months to put together...Give the bloke a chance...

R u serious?.....whatever u r smoking, please give us all some....

As an example and just an example, how many of you are willing to trade Gibbs, Yarran and say Watson if Malthouse wants them gone?

Gibbs should be traded at years end....the bloke has plenty of talent but no heart....He did not put body contact on the opposition on numerous occasions on the weekend and would have heaps of currency....Watson we would not miss at all.....I would not trade Yarren...

U drinking and typing?

Traded for a pick 13 Lucas?
Gibbs has been conditioned to follow players and play in the bubble... not to hunt the ball.
A good coach will turn Gibbs around.....
No way should a team look at trading Gibbs unless the trade is to our own advantage... but thats the same as trading Murph or anyone else.
But i wouldnt be particularly shopping Gibbs around.
Lunacy

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Is the the loopy thread?

R U serious??
Don't worry about what others are on WTF are you smoking.
One post you bag someone about MM only being there for 5 months and give him a chance with players then you want Gibbs traded after MM has had him for 2 Games !!

If you pick the coach, particularly a guy who's about as experienced as it's possible to be, you back him.

That doesn't mean his inner sanctum and list management don't get a say, but ultimately if MM said he was absolutely certain player x,y or z had to go, then they have to go.

The trick is getting the right coach.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

People keep saying we couldnt make a trade due to salary cap. I don't understand that. Poor list management was because we didnt make a trade.
If we dont shake the mental/physical softness this year it has been a wasted year. I personally would have mixed it up last pre season as to me and most of the football world it looked like we were flogging a dead horse. What we have seen this year so far hasn't changed my mind.

Malthouse apparently approved our list?
I keep reading the same posts about list management, contract negligence and trade restrictions.
We spent over 1.5 million dollars paying out a senior coach and 3 other coach’s.
What was stopping us from keeping the assistants paying out the list cloggers as some put it (which wouldn’t have been that much) then trading or drafting for need, select kids or mature players?
Couldn’t Malthouse advise or steer those assistants and the current playing group in his direction or are we over estimating Micks ability or underestimating those he is surrounded by?
Look at chocos influence at the tigers, apparently not all that bad and a hard approach towards his expectations.
Something we haven't seen yet.
Just slightly off the subject but I'm sure he would have been interested if approached.

I would calculate around $600k at best to pay out those list cloggers. 4-5 players.

Yeah.
It worked well with Denis.
Experienced, highly rated premiership coach....

Do the names Trent Knobel, Mick Martyn,Ty Zantuck etc ring any bells with anyone?

Giving a coach free reign with the football department is lunacy but credit to us, we've done it twice.
Nothing surprises me

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.