So if we win the clearances (critical)...and I did say 'if' do we have the forwards to take advantage of that advantage....I'm confident we can because our mids have been exposed by the media as softcocks

Can the big guys turn it around without Hampson Waite and Warnock if we win stoppages.

Casboult...we've seen himfire at FF
Rowe...did well against GWS and Swans at CHF and FF
White...did well against Freo as a lead up fwd.

OR, do we get Warnock in to free up Kreuzer to play KP, because Kreuzer is our best KPF option after those missing?

My view is that Kreuzer around the ball (call it ruck or ruck rover) was tougher and strong around the stoppage than Judd, Carrazzo, Murphy, McLean (our tough players) and closely followed by Gibbs...and imo should be playing around the ball and only KPFF to have a breather to give the KPF.

I reckon with a change in mindset we can beat the Pies...we did show some good stuff last week and beaten the Pies.

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Depends how you define support Carlton?
Waving my flag at stupidity and insipid mediocrity that has been us for over a decade?
Is that what you mean???

Well i dotn support that....

Do i support Carlton???YES! absolutey yes... so i dont wish to see it be a lazy joke of a club .. its painful.

I dont do the blind USA !!! USA!! USA!!! patrotism approach to Carlton.

Oh and i dont buy memberships anymore... cos i dont like my money getting squandered by Bozos.

I can tackle that question a hundred different ways... and in some ways i dont support it and in other ways i do.
It all depends on the different perceptions you and i have a bout what support means.

But dont pretend you care about the club more than i do....

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My Team for Sunday

Tuoy Jamieson Laidler
Yarran Watson Armfield
Carrazzo Gibbs Simpson
Walker Henderson Robinson
Garlett Casbolt Rowe
Kruezer Murphy Judd

Bell, Curnow, McLean
Sub: Duigan

in: Watson, Laidler, Bell, Rowe
out: Bootsma, Joseph, Hampson, Betts, Lucas

plenty of BACKMEN in this team Mick can rotate with THAT WILL SUIT HIS DEFENSIVE GAME STYLE

Actually Mick is not as defensive as people think.
He incorporates defence in his strategy.
Personally i think these coaches have been watching soccer and attempted to superimpose soccer tactics into footy.
If you notice these teams like Manchester United... they absorb pressure and in given windows within a game.. they go all out attack for 5 or 10 minutes...... and i reckon thats what he used to do with Collingwood.
There would be stages within games where there would be a designanted offensive spike scoring in a hurry on the back of a defensive shield
So the game has these pulses of defence attack defence attack....
Often would be just before the end of a quarter ... or early in a quarter.

Very soccer

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I am hardly a fundamentalist.

The club has been a frustration for too long.

However there has only been one round played in the 2013 season. One round of The MM tenure and it is impossible to read doom and gloom into what has been seen thus far.

Let's just give the club some cudos for some of the changes of late:

- New coach with a proven track record.
- A game plan. I honestly struggle to see what Ratts was trying to do, as it seemed aimless.
- An improved training/ preseason structure. Signs of which were shown in the second half last week.
- a contemporary marketing and communications campaign, which will increase our revenue over time
- intention to go to the MCG after a decade of the Colonial Stadium

There is something's to reward about the Carlton approach in 2013.

I hope you agree.

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I agree... but im not sure why youre fingerpointing me a bout Mick.. im not the biggest fan.... but he is definitely an upgrade on the previous guy.
There is nothing special in the contemporary marketing and communications... the word contemporary is so generic and doesnt actually mean anything apart from non archaic...but contemporary in what context?... contemporary copared to the New York Jets and Manchester United ... contemporary compared to Collingwood... or contemporary in the regard we are not doing what we were doing till 3 months ago when everyone else was already ahead of us by 4 or 5 years???
Where do we sit overall??
Our strategy for raising revenue sits in the lap of benefactors still...
the intention to go to the G might be ok... but maybe its StKildas intention also... and the Dogs ...North and everyone else....
Not too sure what amazing visionary came up with that idea....
Hardly the kind of stuff by a 13 man board that encourages fanbois to spew forward.

Wheres our membership at?
How have we treated the playing list?
Whats the clubs decisionmaking like???
Sponsorships ?
Embracement of supporters?

Leadership off and on the ground??

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I would love us to reincarnate Geelong of 2007 but I really can't see it. I would be delighted to be wrong, but I have seen enough already to predict a fair bit still needs to change.

We may win this week, but until we string together strings of wins and consistency of effort throughout (narrowing the gap between the best and worst) I am not going to believe we are building to a flag or anything like that.

It's like the 5 stages of grief since last year, and I have now reached acceptance we aren't going to win a flag with our current group.

I dont think its the group that is a problem.
I think its the organisation.

the club has no idea how to move into this new wide world of AFL footy.

One of the things that irks me is i probab ly got too close to the club.....close up... OMG its all over the shop.....

It reminds me of the Sydney Opera House... from far it looks majestic... get up real close and its like an Italian tiler's project ... dirt in the grout and cracks with bits of pollution in all the pores.Windows need a wash etc....

Keating was right about one thing... sometimes the best way to see the NT was on a plane 40,000 meters in the sky downing a bottle of MOET in first class,,,on the way to Paris

I envy people living up shit creek getting their diet of club news about the club from the web site and little media snaps... and snippets like "Were Carlton @#$%&! the rest!!"

That would be so cool.....!!!!

The club is a Eutopia ... ..............................well it will be a eutopia ............again................ from that kind of distance......
Dining on scraps of hope thrown at you from the club.....

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Out: Betts, Hampson, Bootsma

In: White, Laidler, Buckley

Henderson will start forward first half. Move onto lynch second half

White to play on Lynch first half. Then play forward second half

Laidler to play the floating half back play maker role. (Where he should be)

Kruizer to ruck most of the game and rest forward.

Walker and Yazz Running off half back.

Buckley and Gartlett applying frontal pressure like we've never seen before.

Murph, Carrots, Juddy, McLean, Gibbs, Lucas and Simpson doing the job through the middle.

The club has been a modernist heap of shit, dining out on 80s fat cat syndrome for a long time.

I feel as if the 'contemporary' approach this year has been refreshing. How has the club been 'contemporary'?

They have actually utilized new media, started to implement current training regimen on par with the competition and facilitated some @#$%&! research into the bloody mess they have created since 1995.

I have actually got some resemblance of hope back for the first time since 1996.

You may be so close to the club that you know more than the 13 man board that you continually refer to and I may be a blind fool but I don't give a shit.

I sense a genuine change in club culture.
I will give the club I love the benefit of the doubt fo the 2013 season because I can see some actual response/ action.

If that is blind faith and ignorance is bliss, well so be it.

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This. But wouldn't mind Bell in for Joseph too.

have u ever had a convo with sticks????

just do it!!!

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As much as I'd like to see Bell in the side, I think Jospeh adds more in that he can play a number of roles. He tag through the middle if needed, he can play on a small forward if needed. He can inject a bit of pace.

If Robbo comes up a bit sore from his knock, I'd bring in Bell for Robbo

I also think Mick has to go into the game being a bit unpredictable, hence why I'd start Hendo forward and white down back.

Both Yazz and walker off half back.

I'd also through his along the boundary game plan out the window for one more game and get plenty of numbers around the ball for the first half clogging it up and then go a full on shoot out with them in the second half and hopefully they tire and we over run them

You're right about Joseph's versatility. However, I just feel like Bell can have more of an influence on the game. We are really struggling in the middle at the moment for clearances - and Bell would be more than handy in that department.
If they do play Joseph on Sunday - I just hope it isn't as sub again because he didn't really make that much of an impact when he came on. A sub (IMO) should be someone who can influence the game when they come on - because often a sub is brought on to change things up if the game is in the balance.

Yeah I see what you mean but I can't see our boys playing as loose and weak this team round. That's why I'd get plenty of numbers around the ball and make it tight. And then go full scale attack in the e second half.

I wanna see a desperate Robbo with head over the ball. I wanna see murph not be bumped off the ball so easily. I wanna see Carrots shut down Pendlebury like he's done many times before. I wanna see Judd and McLean using there core strength around the packs.

I wanna see a desperate Laidler getting to every long kick in and killing the contest.

I wanna see walker and Yarran bursting off halfback.

I wanna see Casboult splitting packs apart with his knee crunching into maxwells back.

I WANNA SEE A COMPLETE TEAM EFFORT OUT THERE. NO PASSENGERS THIS WEEK AND MAKE US @#$%&! PROUD.

If I was Bell I would be looking for a new club, if AJ is seen as offering the team more than him

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Bell is up against our attacking players not our defensive players so it's a bit hard to say he's keeping him out. Bell might be able to do a Shane Tuck role but really he needs to be a better option than our existing runner/midfielders.

More accurate to say Robinson and Simpson are keeping him out.

AJ would be keeping grunt workers and defensive players out like Ellard, Curnow etc.

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