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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:53 am 
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Getting close to Round One! :wink:

B: Yarran Jamison Laidler
HB: Touhy Watson OKeefe

C: Simpson McLean Bootsma
Foll: Warnock Judd Murphy

HF: Robinson Henderson Gibbs
F: Betts Casboult Walker

Int: Carrazzo Waite Bell Lucas


..very inexperienced line-up, and no real designated chop-out for the ruck either, unless you're gonna use Levi as chop-out, which then reduces us 1 KF,, unless knockers rests on bench and waite plays limited game-time [??]..

..not to have Krooz on the field is criminal..

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:38 am 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Getting close to Round One! :wink:

B: Yarran Jamison Laidler
HB: Touhy Watson OKeefe

C: Simpson McLean Bootsma
Foll: Warnock Judd Murphy

HF: Robinson Henderson Gibbs
F: Betts Casboult Walker

Int: Carrazzo Waite Bell Lucas


..very inexperienced line-up, and no real designated chop-out for the ruck either, unless you're gonna use Levi as chop-out, which then reduces us 1 KF,, unless knockers rests on bench and waite plays limited game-time [??]..

..not to have Krooz on the field is criminal..


Inexperienced line up? Don't agree. Some inexperienced kids, definitely, but they are supported by experienced players. You need that mix.

I believe MM will be trying to build our next premiership line up and will identify players such as Watson, Casboult, Bootsma as a key to that and the quicker they get experience the better.

I believe if fit Warnock will handle most of the ruck and he has excellent endurance. As always fitness will be the key. Based on what MM did at Collingwood I can see him using Casboult as the back up ruckman like he did with Brown. Stoppages are a key factor in the MM game plan as is the ability to play and extra midfielder. With our options of Waite, Henderson & Walker he will be able to create different forward match ups at any time.

As for Kruezer I dont rate him as highly as others. Good player, yes, but has limitations when it comes to being a first rate ruckman. Just my opinion. I really think we will be so much better with a dominate 206 around the ground.

We know what Judd, Murphy, Scotland, Carrots, Simpson can do. The key to a Grand Final push will be with Watson, Warnock, Gibbs, Henderson, Bootsma, Yarran, Robinson, Bell, Menzel, Casboult and can they take their games to a whole new level?

What excites me about this is the players left out. Cachia, Menzel, Hampson, Kruezer, Mitchell, Garlett, White, Duigan, Curnow, Armfield, Ellard, McCarthy, Buckley, AJ will also be right in the mix for round one.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:01 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Getting close to Round One! :wink:

B: Yarran Jamison Laidler
HB: Touhy Watson OKeefe

C: Simpson McLean Bootsma
Foll: Warnock Judd Murphy

HF: Robinson Henderson Gibbs
F: Betts Casboult Walker

Int: Carrazzo Waite Bell Lucas


I think Jamo, Henderson and Lucas may be in doubt for rd 1 due to lack of a pre season. Also is OKeeffe able to be selected?
I`d go with:
B: Touhy White Laidler
HB: Yarran Watson Duigan

C: Simpson Carazzo Robbo
Foll: Warnock Judd Murphy

HF: Walker Waite Gibbs
F: Betts Casboult Garlett

Int: Kruze, Bell, McLean, Armfield


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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FB: Temay - Jamison - Laidler
HB: Yarran - Henderson - Touhy
C: Simpson - McLean - Murphy
HF: Gibbs - Casboult - Robinson
FF: Betts - Waite - Garlett
RU: Kreuzer - Judd - Carrazzo
INT: Armfield - Walker - Hampson
SUB: Menzel

EMG: Bell - Watson - Warnock

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:30 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
FB: Temay - Jamison - Laidler
HB: Yarran - Henderson - Touhy
C: Simpson - McLean - Murphy
HF: Gibbs - Casboult - Robinson
FF: Betts - Waite - Garlett
RU: Kreuzer - Judd - Carrazzo
INT: Armfield - Walker - Hampson
SUB: Menzel

EMG: Bell - Watson - Warnock


Well structured and balanced.
Good job.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:52 pm 
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I think Jamo, Henderson and Lucas may be in doubt for rd 1 due to lack of a pre season

Quarterbrain stated on Ten Sport that everyone trained. :garthp:

Chaplin and Riewoldt haven't been in full training either.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:23 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
FB: Temay - Jamison - Laidler
HB: Yarran - Henderson - Touhy
C: Simpson - McLean - Murphy
HF: Gibbs - Casboult - Robinson
FF: Betts - Waite - Garlett
RU: Kreuzer - Judd - Carrazzo
INT: Armfield - Walker - Hampson
SUB: Menzel

EMG: Bell - Watson - Warnock


Well structured and balanced.
Good job.

Are you his dad?

No way Temay will play Rd 1. Touhy will get the BP. White will get the HBF.
Bell will be picked ahead of Menzel.
Warnock will play. Hampson won't be ready and even if he were, Warnock would pay ahead of him.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:08 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
FB: Temay - Jamison - Laidler
HB: Yarran - Henderson - Touhy
C: Simpson - McLean - Murphy
HF: Gibbs - Casboult - Robinson
FF: Betts - Waite - Garlett
RU: Kreuzer - Judd - Carrazzo
INT: Armfield - Walker - Hampson
SUB: Menzel

EMG: Bell - Watson - Warnock


Well structured and balanced.
Good job.

Are you his dad?



No, I'm your Mum.

He's just given an opinion and I think its a well balanced team.
As far as who plays Round 1, he has as much idea as you. @#$%&! all.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:48 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
FB: Temay - Jamison - Laidler
HB: Yarran - Henderson - Touhy
C: Simpson - McLean - Murphy
HF: Gibbs - Casboult - Robinson
FF: Betts - Waite - Garlett
RU: Kreuzer - Judd - Carrazzo
INT: Armfield - Walker - Hampson
SUB: Menzel

EMG: Bell - Watson - Warnock


Well structured and balanced.
Good job.

Are you his dad?



No, I'm your Mum.

He's just given an opinion and I think its a well balanced team.
As far as who plays Round 1, he has as much idea as you. !@#$%& all.


Thanks Pa, :lol:
Can't see why Temay or Menzel are no chance. We've played Robinson, Garlett etc. round 1 before and Malthouse is known for bringing young talent into his teams.

Hearing all the reports that White is looking great out on the track, but i've never been convinced by him.. Don't like Touhy opposed to the oppositions best small forward, would prefer to free him up across half back, and also don't see a need for 2 medium sized defenders in Laidler and White in the same back 6.

Personally rate Hampson above Warnock too.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:59 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
FB: Temay - Jamison - Laidler
HB: Yarran - Henderson - Touhy
C: Simpson - McLean - Murphy
HF: Gibbs - Casboult - Robinson
FF: Betts - Waite - Garlett
RU: Kreuzer - Judd - Carrazzo
INT: Armfield - Walker - Hampson
SUB: Menzel

EMG: Bell - Watson - Warnock


Well structured and balanced.
Good job.

Are you his dad?



No, I'm your Mum.

He's just given an opinion and I think its a well balanced team.
As far as who plays Round 1, he has as much idea as I do. !@#$%& all.


EFA :razz:

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:10 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
FB: Temay - Jamison - Laidler
HB: Yarran - Henderson - Touhy
C: Simpson - McLean - Murphy
HF: Gibbs - Casboult - Robinson
FF: Betts - Waite - Garlett
RU: Kreuzer - Judd - Carrazzo
INT: Armfield - Walker - Hampson
SUB: Menzel

EMG: Bell - Watson - Warnock


Well structured and balanced.
Good job.

Are you his dad?



No, I'm your Mum.

He's just given an opinion and I think its a well balanced team.
As far as who plays Round 1, he has as much idea as you. !@#$%& all.


Thanks Pa, :lol:
Can't see why Temay or Menzel are no chance. We've played Robinson, Garlett etc. round 1 before and Malthouse is known for bringing young talent into his teams.

Hearing all the reports that White is looking great out on the track, but i've never been convinced by him.. Don't like Touhy opposed to the oppositions best small forward, would prefer to free him up across half back, and also don't see a need for 2 medium sized defenders in Laidler and White in the same back 6.

Personally rate Hampson above Warnock too.


I'm about as far away as it is possible to get.
I'm basing my thoughts on what I read and see in various places.
MM seems to like White and Warnock and that's possibly a giveaway. Warnock's name is in everything.
The training watchers seem to think Temay is the furthest away.
Bell finished the season off really well last year and IMO will be one of the early picks each week if he keeps improving.
Menzel looks good in his clip but it's a big jump to Rd 1. He has to displace someone and that's a big ask in any team.
I like Hampson, too. He's my #1 ruck/forward when he's fit but I think he might be a bit underdone atm after his injury.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:27 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
I'm about as far away as it is possible to get.
I'm basing my thoughts on what I read and see in various places.
MM seems to like White and Warnock and that's possibly a giveaway. Warnock's name is in everything.
The training watchers seem to think Temay is the furthest away.
Bell finished the season off really well last year and IMO will be one of the early picks each week if he keeps improving.
Menzel looks good in his clip but it's a big jump to Rd 1. He has to displace someone and that's a big ask in any team.
I like Hampson, too. He's my #1 ruck/forward when he's fit but I think he might be a bit underdone atm after his injury.


Maybe some of the training watchers are wrong.
Perhaps Temay has less skill than the others but his fitness far exceeds the other draftees. If anyone is prepared for AFL footy out of our recent crop, I'd suggest its him.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:17 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Maybe some of the training watchers are wrong.
Perhaps Temay has less skill than the others but his fitness far exceeds the other draftees. If anyone is prepared for AFL footy out of our recent crop, I'd suggest its him.


We know he has an excellent fitness base and is an elite runner which may have gone some way to us having recruited him before several others, Graham included.

I can't see any of the boys showing up something far and away better than what we have in place already, but you never know, although at this stage Menzel is yet to to join the main group and Graham has just done so.
With Scotland out and Armfield possibly injured (I did say possibly), there may just be a back-pocket spot available although we wouldn't introduce a newcomer into the back-line without having all our senior boys in place.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:33 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Getting close to Round One! :wink:

Inexperienced line up? Don't agree. Some inexperienced kids, definitely, but they are supported by experienced players. You need that mix.

I believe MM will be trying to build our next premiership line up and will identify players such as Watson, Casboult, Bootsma as a key to that and the quicker they get experience the better.

I believe if fit Warnock will handle most of the ruck and he has excellent endurance. As always fitness will be the key. Based on what MM did at Collingwood I can see him using Casboult as the back up ruckman like he did with Brown. Stoppages are a key factor in the MM game plan as is the ability to play and extra midfielder. With our options of Waite, Henderson & Walker he will be able to create different forward match ups at any time.

As for Kruezer I dont rate him as highly as others. Good player, yes, but has limitations when it comes to being a first rate ruckman. Just my opinion. I really think we will be so much better with a dominate 206 around the ground.

We know what Judd, Murphy, Scotland, Carrots, Simpson can do. The key to a Grand Final push will be with Watson, Warnock, Gibbs, Henderson, Bootsma, Yarran, Robinson, Bell, Menzel, Casboult and can they take their games to a whole new level?

What excites me about this is the players left out. Cachia, Menzel, Hampson, Kruezer, Mitchell, Garlett, White, Duigan, Curnow, Armfield, Ellard, McCarthy, Buckley, AJ will also be right in the mix for round one.



I kind of agree re:Kruez. I reckon he has so much potential but he just needs to take the next step ... I hope he has a big year.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:09 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Getting close to Round One! :wink:

Inexperienced line up? Don't agree. Some inexperienced kids, definitely, but they are supported by experienced players. You need that mix.

I believe MM will be trying to build our next premiership line up and will identify players such as Watson, Casboult, Bootsma as a key to that and the quicker they get experience the better.

I believe if fit Warnock will handle most of the ruck and he has excellent endurance. As always fitness will be the key. Based on what MM did at Collingwood I can see him using Casboult as the back up ruckman like he did with Brown. Stoppages are a key factor in the MM game plan as is the ability to play and extra midfielder. With our options of Waite, Henderson & Walker he will be able to create different forward match ups at any time.

As for Kruezer I dont rate him as highly as others. Good player, yes, but has limitations when it comes to being a first rate ruckman. Just my opinion. I really think we will be so much better with a dominate 206 around the ground.

We know what Judd, Murphy, Scotland, Carrots, Simpson can do. The key to a Grand Final push will be with Watson, Warnock, Gibbs, Henderson, Bootsma, Yarran, Robinson, Bell, Menzel, Casboult and can they take their games to a whole new level?

What excites me about this is the players left out. Cachia, Menzel, Hampson, Kruezer, Mitchell, Garlett, White, Duigan, Curnow, Armfield, Ellard, McCarthy, Buckley, AJ will also be right in the mix for round one.



I kind of agree re:Kruez. I reckon he has so much potential but he just needs to take the next step ... I hope he has a big year.


Hopefully he is fully fit and firing in 2013.
We haven't seen that post knee injury.
I was very impressed with him as a 1st and 2nd year player:
He took marks, didn't miss shots at goal and was incredibly light on his feet for a 200cm player with good stamina. He was only 19.

Started his 2nd year the same way, just a bit stronger.

I just want to see him take more marks around the ground, and to stop missing shots at goal.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:05 pm 
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for round 1,
laidler jamison watson
touhy henderson duigan
simpson carrazzo yarran
robinson waite gibbs
walker casboult betts
kreuzer judd murphy
i/c; lucas garlett armfield
sub; mclean or bell

went with 3 talls, that way we can cover vickory/jack and edwards or the resting ruck
casboult to help kreuzer out
armfield is there to help out carrazzo with the shut down role, [martin/cotchin]
reckon menzel will be a gun, but needs more time
lucas will be given every opportunity, the kid can play, called sugar for a reason
reckon malthouse will love touhy and duigan for there attack on the ball, both play there roles well
would like too see garlett spend a LITTLE more time up the ground, just to help out with quick ball movement
fingers crossed waite, jamison, henderson and kreuzer can all stay fit and healthy
can't wait, bring it on!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:36 pm 
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blueboy23 wrote:
for round 1,
laidler jamison watson
touhy henderson duigan
simpson carrazzo yarran
robinson waite gibbs
walker casboult betts
kreuzer judd murphy
i/c; lucas garlett armfield
sub; mclean or bell

went with 3 talls, that way we can cover vickory/jack and edwards or the resting ruck
casboult to help kreuzer out
armfield is there to help out carrazzo with the shut down role, [martin/cotchin]
reckon menzel will be a gun, but needs more time
lucas will be given every opportunity, the kid can play, called sugar for a reason
reckon malthouse will love touhy and duigan for there attack on the ball, both play there roles well
would like too see garlett spend a LITTLE more time up the ground, just to help out with quick ball movement
fingers crossed waite, jamison, henderson and kreuzer can all stay fit and healthy
can't wait, bring it on!!!


Both McLean and Bell are way ahead of Lucas.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:53 pm 
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Very slow defence.


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