Damn. J&K, you beat me to it. Just saw it.

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Ahmed caught up in MLC debacle

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/sacke ... 265in.html

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I don't know much about Fahour, my view is tinged a little by reports on here about his ruthlessness. Sure, I think we might need a bit of that for our fearless leader, but I don't want ruthlesseness for powers sake. I want a firm hand with a clear head (sounds a little like the Friday Night Lights football team slogan )

This is the problem with the speed of our media cycle. Your assumption's fair enough based on the initial story released by the board but based on what Storelli's come out with today this one's got a fair way to go and the board have a whole lot of explaining to do.

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Ahmed was never the CEO of NAB.

He was the CEO of the Australian operations - big difference.

His role at NAB was very senior, very important and very powerful but not CEO of NAB.

NAB is and was at the time a global business, much more so than any of the other 3 big Australian banks.

Ahmed wanted the NAB Group CEO role - he didn't succeed.

He is a good businessman. He is strong and very influential. He is also very supportive of HIS people. His brother rose rapidly through the ranks of the Aust NAB business beyond his years. He is now a senior exec at Aust Post.

Ahmed would be a strong addition to the board but not the panacea of all Carlton's ills.

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Well he's not much use at Visy Park if he's not the messiah!

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I'm with you. What I want is a president with a clear head. More things go wrong at football clubs than go right.

Ran into someone today who worked with AF and he was very complimentary.
He was ruthless on upholding cultural values, anyone who did not take them seriously got the arse or left because it started to impact their pay. His words were "overnight the culture of place changed and the place became a much happier place to work"
Also mentioned he has a real presence about it.

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So the inference being, the acquisition of Ahmed to the Board may going by past trends lead to more employment opportunities at Carlton for his brother. Interesting times ahead.

I think the "neighs' have it.

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At this risk of boring you, what Synbad is saying is correct its normal human behavior..
For those that think that this argument is over simplified consider the following.
The most fundamental of human needs outside of the physical needs that sustain physical life is the need to belong followed by the need to differentiate within a group. Human beings are socially dependent creatures and a social Groups (including the CFC board of directors) drive the behavior its members (a right of passage so to speak that reaffirms the individuals place within the team). All groups (even this forum) are made up of 1)super-typical s, 2) typical s and 3)sub-typical s. The characteristics of the super-typical are emulated by the typical's who in turn are themselves emulated by the sub-typical s.
Its a case of consciously following the leader in order to ensure survival.
The group cloisters (shuts down open access) in order to preserve its power-- Its a little like the moderators in here.
As much as human beings profess and strive for non discriminatory behavior, its an innate survival mechanism. So yeah its totally possible that a football board made up predominately of Catholics or Jewish member's may for innate social reasons block the introduction of a new leader (say of different belief) if that prospective is different in someway that is a major factor in binding the current organisation. The solution is to prevent cloistering and ensure objective based external transparency.

I hear whispers that the super-typicals are proposing a change to the CFC logo, to the Skull And Bones........

Ahmed is now a CFC board member - further discussion here - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32293