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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:07 pm 
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Thanks John.

Thats probably the most well rounded post we've seen here in a long time and makes a much more sense than the usual 'Sticks has to go' we hear here.

Probably belongs back in the Sticks thread, so lets get this thread back on track :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:10 pm 
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The Jakovich appointment doesn't phase me either way...the only thing I am after from the Malthouse appointment is someone who can take over ...an appointment of legacy. We don't have one there as yet...I'd love for a Scott Burns to come in as senior assistant for just that. It's a massive roll of the dice the way things are being done...get Mick in there for 3 years by all means...but what happens after that? Throw the cash at Burns. Please.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:19 pm 
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Unfortunately Burns has made it pretty clear he'd like to stay with the Eagles.

We'll be paying out Ratten and a few other assistants by the look of things, can we afford to throw big money at Burns?

Malthouse, Ling, Jacko, Wiley and now Wayne Carey being thrown into the mix. Do we have the money for all these blokes?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:22 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Damn you blokes a GOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

These days you don't even wait until a bloke gets the job you just pot him just in case he gets the job.

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Just wait until they lose a game! :screwy:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:28 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Damn you blokes a GOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

These days you don't even wait until a bloke gets the job you just pot him just in case he gets the job.

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Symptomatic of the lack of faith in the clubs' decision-makers I'm afraid Mr.C. The track record isn't one that inspires confidence, and until they've proven they can be trusted to get it right more often than not, you'll get a wary reaction to these kinds of things.

Trust. It's important, and to be frank, they don't have mine.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:36 pm 
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i spoke to jako last week and the indication was no

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Thank God for that

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:38 pm 
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he could have been lying ?

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Please don't do that :(

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A week is a long time in football.......


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:57 pm 
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whats so bad about jakovick????
he was hard at it, played in a few premierships and was a dammm good player.
fair chance he can teach the boys how to go about it, minus robinson/mclean.
no to malthouse no to jakovick,
starting to sound like old moles!!!!!!!!!!!!
if he comes over and we start playing well, let me guess, gee whiz how good is the bloke,
just give him a chance. :mad:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:45 pm 
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I'm staying out of the assistants debate.

If someone posted on this board that at the start of 2011 we got M.Thompson as senior assistant, B.McCartney as a forward line coach, S.Goodwin as midfield coach, and J.Hird to move the cones most people would have been beside themselves.

On the other hand announcing that we got the likes the Sydney team ie John Blakey, Stuart Dew, Henry Playfair, Jared Crouch and Leigh Tudor would have been given a luke warm reception yet look at the difference in performance from both sides.

Then we had the whole David Teague was rubbish, David Teague is now a gun at West Coast saga. Matthew Lappin was hopeless with us, then when Collingwood were flying Matthew Lappin was a gun, and now the forward line is a shambles, he is oridnary again. Which is true?

Robert Harvey was by all reports an overpaid cone mover at Carlton, then when Collingwood had won 10 in a row and Sidebottom and Beams were flying, Scott Pendlebury was heaping praise on him, and now I'm hearing Collingwood supporters questioning him again.

It seems like the simple rule is: team winning, assistants good, team losing, assistants bad.

Judging senior coaches from the outside is difficult, but at the end of the day the buck stops with them so we have our say. Judging assistants is more difficult due to a number of factors, but most importantly how much of their influence is directly affecting the overall performance of their particular line?

I enjoy any comments from people who have 1st, 2nd, 3rd hand information on any possible additions, but if anyone is just make assumptions from media, their playing career, or if he's seems like a great bloke, or a flog then pull up a stool and join me on the sidelines! :smoking: :beer:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:05 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
I'm staying out of the assistants debate.

If someone posted on this board that at the start of 2011 we got M.Thompson as senior assistant, B.McCartney as a forward line coach, S.Goodwin as midfield coach, and J.Hird to move the cones most people would have been beside themselves.

On the other hand announcing that we got the likes the Sydney team ie John Blakey, Stuart Dew, Henry Playfair, Jared Crouch and Leigh Tudor would have been given a luke warm reception yet look at the difference in performance from both sides.

Then we had the whole David Teague was rubbish, David Teague is now a gun at West Coast saga. Matthew Lappin was hopeless with us, then when Collingwood were flying Matthew Lappin was a gun, and now the forward line is a shambles, he is oridnary again. Which is true?

Robert Harvey was by all reports an overpaid cone mover at Carlton, then when Collingwood had won 10 in a row and Sidebottom and Beams were flying, Scott Pendlebury was heaping praise on him, and now I'm hearing Collingwood supporters questioning him again.

It seems like the simple rule is: team winning, assistants good, team losing, assistants bad.

Judging senior coaches from the outside is difficult, but at the end of the day the buck stops with them so we have our say. Judging assistants is more difficult due to a number of factors, but most importantly how much of their influence is directly affecting the overall performance of their particular line?

I enjoy any comments from people who have 1st, 2nd, 3rd hand information on any possible additions, but if anyone is just make assumptions from media, their playing career, or if he's seems like a great bloke, or a flog then pull up a stool and join me on the sidelines! :smoking: :beer:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:17 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Blueboy74 wrote:
I'm staying out of the assistants debate.

If someone posted on this board that at the start of 2011 we got M.Thompson as senior assistant, B.McCartney as a forward line coach, S.Goodwin as midfield coach, and J.Hird to move the cones most people would have been beside themselves.

On the other hand announcing that we got the likes the Sydney team ie John Blakey, Stuart Dew, Henry Playfair, Jared Crouch and Leigh Tudor would have been given a luke warm reception yet look at the difference in performance from both sides.

Then we had the whole David Teague was rubbish, David Teague is now a gun at West Coast saga. Matthew Lappin was hopeless with us, then when Collingwood were flying Matthew Lappin was a gun, and now the forward line is a shambles, he is oridnary again. Which is true?

Robert Harvey was by all reports an overpaid cone mover at Carlton, then when Collingwood had won 10 in a row and Sidebottom and Beams were flying, Scott Pendlebury was heaping praise on him, and now I'm hearing Collingwood supporters questioning him again.

It seems like the simple rule is: team winning, assistants good, team losing, assistants bad.

Judging senior coaches from the outside is difficult, but at the end of the day the buck stops with them so we have our say. Judging assistants is more difficult due to a number of factors, but most importantly how much of their influence is directly affecting the overall performance of their particular line?

I enjoy any comments from people who have 1st, 2nd, 3rd hand information on any possible additions, but if anyone is just make assumptions from media, their playing career, or if he's seems like a great bloke, or a flog then pull up a stool and join me on the sidelines! :smoking: :beer:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:27 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Damn you blokes a GOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

These days you don't even wait until a bloke gets the job you just pot him just in case he gets the job.

Regards Cazzesman


Quite sad isnt it..

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:41 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
I'm staying out of the assistants debate.

If someone posted on this board that at the start of 2011 we got M.Thompson as senior assistant, B.McCartney as a forward line coach, S.Goodwin as midfield coach, and J.Hird to move the cones most people would have been beside themselves.

On the other hand announcing that we got the likes the Sydney team ie John Blakey, Stuart Dew, Henry Playfair, Jared Crouch and Leigh Tudor would have been given a luke warm reception yet look at the difference in performance from both sides.

Then we had the whole David Teague was rubbish, David Teague is now a gun at West Coast saga. Matthew Lappin was hopeless with us, then when Collingwood were flying Matthew Lappin was a gun, and now the forward line is a shambles, he is oridnary again. Which is true?

Robert Harvey was by all reports an overpaid cone mover at Carlton, then when Collingwood had won 10 in a row and Sidebottom and Beams were flying, Scott Pendlebury was heaping praise on him, and now I'm hearing Collingwood supporters questioning him again.

It seems like the simple rule is: team winning, assistants good, team losing, assistants bad.

Judging senior coaches from the outside is difficult, but at the end of the day the buck stops with them so we have our say. Judging assistants is more difficult due to a number of factors, but most importantly how much of their influence is directly affecting the overall performance of their particular line?

I enjoy any comments from people who have 1st, 2nd, 3rd hand information on any possible additions, but if anyone is just make assumptions from media, their playing career, or if he's seems like a great bloke, or a flog then pull up a stool and join me on the sidelines! :smoking: :beer:


Here here!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:58 am 
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I saw enough of David Teague to know that I wouldn't want him at Carlton. But he has Phillip Walsh (strategy and innovations coach), Scott Burns (coaching defensive mindset into the mids) and Darren Glass to make him look good, so good luck to him. Oh yeah...and one of the best defenders to play the game as Head Coach.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:05 am 
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blueboy23 wrote:
whats so bad about jakovick????
he was hard at it, played in a few premierships and was a dammm good player.
fair chance he can teach the boys how to go about it, minus robinson/mclean.
no to malthouse no to jakovick,
starting to sound like old moles!!!!!!!!!!!!
if he comes over and we start playing well, let me guess, gee whiz how good is the bloke,
just give him a chance. :mad:


Our club which is stuffed financially is paying out several hundred thousand dollars to dispose of experienced and highly rated assistants.

And as their replacements, we're looking at a 57 year old who hasnt had an AFL assistant job for years and a TV boundary rider with zero coaching experience.
Yeah, why would I think the club are @#$%&! wits? :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:56 pm 
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blue vain,
got nothing to do with our old assistants!!!
just making comments about jackovick!!!
he is an assistant coach for the AIS/VIS.
do you know him???
guess not, so how do you know if he is any good??, or not in your case!!
so you would be happy with carlton continuing on its merry way, not playing finals, losing to goldcoast 3rds, getting flogged by port?
something had to give, cant sack 22 guys,
just trying to have faith in ''OUR CLUB''
i am sure blokes like uncle bruce is putting in to help out, after all he wanted blood.
i don't agree with the decision of our assistants [richo/williams/riley], but just give jackovick a go, thats all.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:09 pm 
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blueboy23 wrote:
blue vain,
got nothing to do with our old assistants!!!
just making comments about jackovick!!!
he is an assistant coach for the AIS/VIS.
do you know him???
guess not, so how do you know if he is any good??, or not in your case!!
so you would be happy with carlton continuing on its merry way, not playing finals, losing to goldcoast 3rds, getting flogged by port?
something had to give, cant sack 22 guys,
just trying to have faith in ''OUR CLUB''
i am sure blokes like uncle bruce is putting in to help out, after all he wanted blood.
i don't agree with the decision of our assistants [richo/williams/riley], but just give jackovick a go, thats all.



Mate, the AIS job is a junket for a couple of weeks a year. :lol:
Thats it. a couple of weeks a year.
As for Jakovich, he may be OK but we are sacking some quality assistant coaches for one of Micks cronies who might be OK. And what's more, its costing us the best part of a million to get rid of them.
Great work by the board.
Dont you get frustrated that your hard earned money is getting consistently pissed up against the wall by these fools?

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