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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:02 am 
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Never really thought of Sticks as Prez. Always thought others were making the decisions and he was just there to glue the board together and be the face of the club.
Many a good business person have seen things in Sticks they like. Mainly in leadership i would imagine. Can't say he has done anything as leader that has let me down.

It is time for him to move on as he has had his turn and i am sure he will sometime in the next couple of years. Hopefully he will get a flag before then. A flag with Sticks in charge will be nice moment in my life.

I am not the carlton fan that cares about membership numbers and twitter and stuff like that. All about footy for me.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:04 am 
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Never really thought of Sticks as Prez. Always thought others were making the decisions and he was just there to glue the board together and be the face of the club.
Many a good business person have seen things in Sticks they like. Mainly in leadership i would imagine. Can't say he has done anything as leader that has let me down.

It is time for him to move on as he has had his turn and i am sure he will sometime in the next couple of years. Hopefully he will get a flag before then. A flag with Sticks in charge will be nice moment in my life.

I am not the carlton fan that cares about membership numbers and twitter and stuff like that. All about footy for me.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:10 am 
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club29 wrote:

I am not the carlton fan that cares about membership numbers and twitter and stuff like that. All about footy for me.



Lucky for you then that the footy has been fantastic. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:17 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
club29 wrote:

I am not the carlton fan that cares about membership numbers and twitter and stuff like that. All about footy for me.



Lucky for you then that the footy has been fantastic. :wink:


Haha..... I had a good first 25 years of my life footy wise. Dried up a bit since then but i still enjoy the watching how we go getting through a season. How we improve, how we dont and having a clubs favourite son or two. Noone can take the 7 flags my team have won in my lifetime off me.

Fingers crossed the next two years are great Carlton years and Sticks can go out on a high.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:19 pm 
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club29 wrote:
AGRO wrote:
club29 wrote:

I am not the carlton fan that cares about membership numbers and twitter and stuff like that. All about footy for me.



Lucky for you then that the footy has been fantastic. :wink:


Haha..... I had a good first 25 years of my life footy wise. Dried up a bit since then but i still enjoy the watching how we go getting through a season. How we improve, how we dont and having a clubs favourite son or two. Noone can take the 7 flags my team have won in my lifetime off me.

Fingers crossed the next two years are great Carlton years and Sticks can go out on a high.



Or the 8 flags in mine - all I want is for my kids to have the same level of enjoyment that I have had rather than the 10 years of misery that's been inflicted on them.

But "fingers crossed" & "hoping" just isnt going to cut it any more - this club needs to move into the 21st Century with strong, intelligent leaders with a vision and plan.

I loved Sticks as a player but hoping that he goes out on a high at the expense of having someone in place who can deliver that high is just not the way to go.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:28 pm 
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club29 wrote:
AGRO wrote:
club29 wrote:

I am not the carlton fan that cares about membership numbers and twitter and stuff like that. All about footy for me.



Lucky for you then that the footy has been fantastic. :wink:


Haha..... I had a good first 25 years of my life footy wise. Dried up a bit since then but i still enjoy the watching how we go getting through a season. How we improve, how we dont and having a clubs favourite son or two. Noone can take the 7 flags my team have won in my lifetime off me.

Fingers crossed the next two years are great Carlton years and Sticks can go out on a high.

So its about Sticks winning the flag for you???

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:28 pm 
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Who comes up with the names?


Potential names are littered throughout this thread. Andy Penn (CFO Telstra), Ian Herman (Managing Partner, Grant Thornton), Stephen Kerr (Vice President, State Library of Victoria; Owner/CEO, Public Relations Exchange), Mark Kerr (Director, Berkeley Consultants) to name a few. All life-long Carlton people. All attend Carlton games. All sit on a board. All talented businessmen. None have been approached. Time for succession planning. Why wouldn't you have some of these guys meet quarterly on an advisory board to the board and/or sub-committees with the view to them becoming board members?


Woolies' newish boss Grant O'Brien is a Carlton man. One to keep in mind when he's done playing games with Coles.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:14 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
club29 wrote:
Never really thought of Sticks as Prez. Always thought others were making the decisions and he was just there to glue the board together and be the face of the club.
Many a good business person have seen things in Sticks they like. Mainly in leadership i would imagine. Can't say he has done anything as leader that has let me down.

It is time for him to move on as he has had his turn and i am sure he will sometime in the next couple of years. Hopefully he will get a flag before then. A flag with Sticks in charge will be nice moment in my life.

I am not the carlton fan that cares about membership numbers and twitter and stuff like that. All about footy for me.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:50 pm 
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Or the 8 flags in mine - all I want is for my kids to have the same level of enjoyment that I have had rather than the 10 years of misery that's been inflicted on them.

But "fingers crossed" & "hoping" just isnt going to cut it any more - this club needs to move into the 21st Century with strong, intelligent leaders with a vision and plan.

I loved Sticks as a player but hoping that he goes out on a high at the expense of having someone in place who can deliver that high is just not the way to go.


Fingers crossed and hoping is all you can ever do in football until the cup is in hand. Even Cats and Hawks fans this year will be "hoping" they can get it done.

I like the bravado "hoping doesnt cut it any more" .......but something about Angelina Jolie and another starlet both in the same day comes to mind.

Now i better get back to getting my head around Malthouse being the coach of Carlton. :?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:06 pm 
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club29 wrote:
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Or the 8 flags in mine - all I want is for my kids to have the same level of enjoyment that I have had rather than the 10 years of misery that's been inflicted on them.

But "fingers crossed" & "hoping" just isnt going to cut it any more - this club needs to move into the 21st Century with strong, intelligent leaders with a vision and plan.

I loved Sticks as a player but hoping that he goes out on a high at the expense of having someone in place who can deliver that high is just not the way to go.


Fingers crossed and hoping is all you can ever do in football until the cup is in hand. Even Cats and Hawks fans this year will be "hoping" they can get it done.

I like the bravado "hoping doesnt cut it any more" .......but something about Angelina Jolie and another starlet both in the same day comes to mind.

Now i better get back to getting my head around Malthouse being the coach of Carlton. :?


Supporters are meant to hope, that's all we can do.

Those running the club though... You'd like to think they could do a bit more than that. Supporters of Hawthorn and Geelong would have a lot more confidence in their club leaders making good decisions... The kinds of decisions that set you up for success... Than Carlton supporters would.

I hope that, despite 15 years of poor decisions, my club somehow manages to get it right. Hawks supporters hope they get the 2nd and 3rd flag their club has worked and planned towards. Geelong fans hope that the young kids they've introduced to their side come on enough to get them their 4th and maybe 5th flag in a decade.

Kernahan is hoping Malthouse wins us a flag. I don't think he's thinking much deeper than that.

You can actually plan for success in football, if you're smart enough. Hope is for clubs run by 2nd rate administrations, like Melbourne, and Richmond and... Carlton. That's not entirely fair, Melbourne is 3rd rate.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:46 pm 
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Woolies' newish boss Grant O'Brien is a Carlton man. One to keep in mind when he's done playing games with Coles.


Get get kenny. He'd be perfect for CEO, but we couldn't afford him so it's going to have to be as President!! Grant makes $1,549,684 a year which includes an end of year bonus of $493,809. Factor in stock options and you're looking at a something a little over $2million.

If you're wondering about Grant's background - he's originally a Tassie boy from Penguin who left school after Year 10 to do an apprenticeship as an electrician. As a 20 year-old (in 1982), he was lured to South Australia by Glenelg football general manager Harry Kernahan and played alongside Stephen before moving to the ACT to concentrate on a career in business in 1984 where he played for Ainslie. Degrees and MBA's at Monash and then Harvard.

It's almost too good to be true. Is thought highly of by Bruce Mathieson, played footy with Sticks, follows the Blues. Is only 50 - but again..another to 'headhunt' to an advisory group in the future. At the very least, invite him to a golf day, put his family up in a great hotel and let's get these people involved, if only at a very basic level.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:01 pm 
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This is how I see Sticks' at the moment:

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Hey I just interviewed you - and this is crazy - but here's a new job, so coach us maybe?

Mick:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:10 am 
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Kernahan is hoping Malthouse wins us a flag. I don't think he's thinking much deeper than that.
Speculating on what you THINK someone else THINKS and then attacking them for it – leave that to Synners, he does it better.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:44 am 
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Kernahan is hoping Malthouse wins us a flag. I don't think he's thinking much deeper than that.
Speculating on what you THINK someone else THINKS and then attacking them for it – leave that to Synners, he does it better.

isdonis... sticks thought like u and gave ratts a 2 year contract....

... u were happy sticks was happy....

ratten will get 600k to sit on his ass next year... courtesy of this footy cub... which is 9 in the red.

maybe no skin of sticks nose...

..... but really wou ld have been embarassing to move him on 10 weeks into a 2 year contract...

i dont mind u commenting....... but dont try to put me down.... especially with your logic process.

"synbad thinks ratts cant coach...... ratts is coach.... stick it up synbad.....ratts cant coach and gets the sars..????.... ooops. but stick it up synbad....... "

There is something underlyingly wrong about the way you go about things.....

Its probably the same thing wrong with the club..... "dumb culture"

Regardless....you were wrong...and now all you can come out to do is try and whip me with your wet spaghetti......

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:54 am 
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Kernahan is hoping Malthouse wins us a flag. I don't think he's thinking much deeper than that.
Speculating on what you THINK someone else THINKS and then attacking them for it – leave that to Synners, he does it better.


Well, personally I trust my intuition and powers of observation enough to hold an opinion.

Tell me, does it LOOK like the last few years have been the result of a carefully thought-out and well-laid plan? Do you think Sticks gave Ratten a 2 year extension, thinking that a scant 6 months later he'd be fumbling in front of the media about sacking him?

Was putting on a part-time coach to look after our development squad, then sacking him because he could only do the job part time part of this grand plan? How about sacking Wayne Hughes but actually keeping him on as 2IC?

Was it Sticks' idea to reduce the clubs debt through Mathieson's pokie gift? Why has the board blown out to unmanageable levels during Stick's reign?

When Bruce Matheison tells the whole world he thinks Sticks isn't up to it, is he just kidding around?

To be honest, I'm more than prepared to take a wild stab and assume that the Malthouse appointment is a last, desperate ill-thought out attempt to win a premiership by pressing a magic button.

Just like Pagan was. Just like Rattens appointment and re-appointment was ill-thought out.

If you can see ANY evidence of Kernahan having ANY kind of coherent strategy for success, please share it with me, so i may have some evidence with which to alter my view that Sticks doesnt know what the hell he's doing. I can't see any at all.

You know, if Sticks was Prez of any other club, you'd be laughing at him and them. That's the truth.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:38 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
Woolies' newish boss Grant O'Brien is a Carlton man. One to keep in mind when he's done playing games with Coles.


Get get kenny. He'd be perfect for CEO, but we couldn't afford him so it's going to have to be as President!! Grant makes $1,549,684 a year which includes an end of year bonus of $493,809. Factor in stock options and you're looking at a something a little over $2million.

If you're wondering about Grant's background - he's originally a Tassie boy from Penguin who left school after Year 10 to do an apprenticeship as an electrician. As a 20 year-old (in 1982), he was lured to South Australia by Glenelg football general manager Harry Kernahan and played alongside Stephen before moving to the ACT to concentrate on a career in business in 1984 where he played for Ainslie. Degrees and MBA's at Monash and then Harvard.

It's almost too good to be true. Is thought highly of by Bruce Mathieson, played footy with Sticks, follows the Blues. Is only 50 - but again..another to 'headhunt' to an advisory group in the future. At the very least, invite him to a golf day, put his family up in a great hotel and let's get these people involved, if only at a very basic level.

Then...
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...and now
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He's one of the better CEO stories going around. Came thru the ranks & even stacked shelves at Woolies while at uni.
From a big, successful Tassie family. So it goes without saying he's a good bloke :razz:
He would be able to open the club to a world of contacts & familiar with ultra competitive environment.
Is there a bigger rivalry in Oz than Coles v Woolies?
You're spot on Doc, these are the type of people we need to identify & then foster. Make them feel part of the club, maybe generate some input - some form of casual advisory group - &, when they feel the time is right, possibly get more involved with the club. Even if they don't surely we can still benefit with these type of busIness leaders thinking Blue.
It's also about planning for the future. It's no good running off to Harold Mitchell when the horse has well & truly bolted. Set up a sub committee to identify, target & woo these people.
Go find the leaders who can rejuvenate our club. Then we might be able to argue about the footy for a change on TC ... :donk:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:48 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
Woolies' newish boss Grant O'Brien is a Carlton man. One to keep in mind when he's done playing games with Coles.


Get get kenny. He'd be perfect for CEO, but we couldn't afford him so it's going to have to be as President!! Grant makes $1,549,684 a year which includes an end of year bonus of $493,809. Factor in stock options and you're looking at a something a little over $2million.

If you're wondering about Grant's background - he's originally a Tassie boy from Penguin who left school after Year 10 to do an apprenticeship as an electrician. As a 20 year-old (in 1982), he was lured to South Australia by Glenelg football general manager Harry Kernahan and played alongside Stephen before moving to the ACT to concentrate on a career in business in 1984 where he played for Ainslie. Degrees and MBA's at Monash and then Harvard.

It's almost too good to be true. Is thought highly of by Bruce Mathieson, played footy with Sticks, follows the Blues. Is only 50 - but again..another to 'headhunt' to an advisory group in the future. At the very least, invite him to a golf day, put his family up in a great hotel and let's get these people involved, if only at a very basic level.

Then...
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Knew the family well and had a bit to do with him in his early days at Penguin when they had a good side. Quality person.

...and now
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:53 am 
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Dear Grant,

Please come and rescue our club.
Save us from Sticks.

I know that you are on pretty good coin at woolies,
But if you work at CFC we have lots of pokies you can play,
And a sick gym that you can use.

Also Jeannie will buy you coffees and tell you choice stories.

And Jase Johnson makes a wicked focaccia.

Juddie would be pleased to be a supermarket ambassador.

Please be our prez!


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Good reading in the AFR this morning...

http://www.afr.com/p/national/it_win_win_when_business_plays_sport_W09hrDvdhkeoP2NfIIHHTJ


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Great read, but also rather depressing at the same time :sad:

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