We had 8 players with less than 50 games, , but hey don't let the facts get in the way of a good story

Agree that we were awful. A decent side would have smashed us. A percentage boost would have been handy but we only just did enough to win against a pretty poor side.

One of Gibbs better games for the year. I didn't think his impact matched his possession count and good sides won't allow him that space but it's a start. Casboult was good as well before tiring. That ball drop is appalling though. Even the banana he kicked was terrible. Gripped it overhand and dropped it from almost chest height. Curnow did a decent job as a stopper I thought but disposal was poor again. Good to see Garlett hit the scoreboard. Hopefully that gives him some more confidence.

Very, very unconvincing but a win is a win.

No excuses for them to make us look third rate early. Lucky they wasted chances throughout the game.

Midfield doesn't work hard enough defensively. Can work very hard going forward though.

We continue to do the basics poorly. Shepherds, talk, hitting targets either by foot or hand under little pressure, handballing to someone under immediate pressure (curnow twice ) and general accountability to name a few.

Thought kruez, murph, garlett and carrots were good. Walks and Waite not bad either. Levi promising but gee whiz someone teach him how to kick.

Not all that impressed with Gibbs to be honest. Last qtr goes one handed for that mark, butters up by going to ground and conceding a HTB. Then that shot for goal later on. Seriously, wtf? Not good enough for someone of his supposed class.

Need to lift a few cogs to have any chance next week.

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We are on our way back...

I'm happy 3 of my favorites are showing a bit in Bolt, McInnes and RoK. All keepers if we want to improve.

one of the worst games I've been to. Just awful to watch. Our skill overall are terrible. And what I really noticed tonight is how crap we are collectively at picking up a ball below our knees.

I thought Gibbs was good tonight but its hard to stop whipping a whipping boy for some it would seem.

How Levi has been on the list for the best part of 4 years and his kicking action has not been addressed is beyond me. It truly is an indictment on the coaches. Just horrible to watch. He can take a good grab though and contests really well.

Bell is a bull and has a future. O'Keefe did really well in the short time he was on.

Watson was average and looks like he has lost some of the confidence he had started to build. Hopefully another week might see him regain a bit of touch.

Was good to see the Sticks Kernahan helicopter make a re-appearance. Not Kreuzer's best effort but at least it went straight!!

Waite's marking was good, particularly on those fast searching leads up the flanks. Offers that link that we've sorely missed for much of the year.

Garlett seems to have turned the corner after having a pretty ordinary year to date.

I just hope we can click next week and @#$%&! up the bombers season for good.

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Tanking ?

Tanking ?

Only saw the first quarter and a bit so can't comment on the game. Apart from Levi's kicking, which I got to see early on. Two misses both gettable.

I thought Watson started off OK. Interesting to read that someone thought he was lacking in confidence. i will watch the replay tomorrow when it gets posted on Bigpond TV. LKooking forward to it.

I'm batching for a week so I can connect the big screen to the computer and watch Carlton games all week. I might start with this win and then go back to the 1968 GF and work my way forward.

If Richmond beats Essendon* we make the eight. It is really the only game that we can't control. We have to beat them well next week, go for percentage against the Suns and then all we have to do is beat the aints if Richmond does the right thing.

GO TIGERS!

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Curnow 12 touches v Bell 18 and a goal. FFS, it's Judd for Curnow isn't it? Ellard for Mitch if he's suspended, hope there's nothing in it though as Mitch can dish out some useful pain this week.

Really, really want to see Bell v these pricks after what happened Rd 4.

Curnows job on Black was instrumental in us getting across the line. He shouldnt be going anywhere.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Its another tag though BV


Seriously, some of you guys need need to get over your obsession with how many 'tags' we employ.

Our midfield has been terrible in terms of accountability at times and you have to recognise there are different stages of making our players responsible for their opponant.

There aren't many pure tags in footy anymore. Most of the time its be responsible for your opponant, but when we have the ball work off him and provide an option. This is more a 'run with' role. Other players benefit from having someone take them to the ball, others raise their game with the responsibility they're given to run with an opposition star.

To describe Carrazzo's role as a tagger shows a pretty limited understanding of how footy works.

There are some serious flaws in how we play football at times. Some of them relate to coaching strategy, but some of the dumb decision making our players are capable of is embarassing. Having two players run to the man with ball, letting a free player run ahead, having 6-7 within a couple of metres of the contest while their players are outside that bubble, lack of intensity when we tackle in close allowing them to break free.

A few other things that stood out
- how flat we were early
- rotating KP players off the bench, why does Simon White need a break half way through the first quarter?
- our insistence on going sideways or backwards to pick out an easy option in our forward half, giving them time to set up a zone, makes it very difficult for us to find an option and score.

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Voice of reason.

Same reason TBird can't get a run, Levi is doing his job and can ruck.

Unfortunately we can't just "let them play" because it makes the game a shoot out and that style doesn't hold up when the game is hot.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Good post Brad, particularly the first part. We don't get to play any game on our terms, nobody does. If we'd let our midfield play wide of each other the game becomes a lottery.

On the last part it can be difficult for us , particularly at Etihad, to play quickly because our disposal simply struggles . Sides are shutting down our options so when it's frenetic we often dont see the one option that's open and if we do see it we miss it anyway.

Still shouldn't be doing the chip chip shit but we needed to move at a more deliberate pace. Which we did sometimes.

Plus brizzy did have a crack.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Couldn't go, so obviously raw stats don't tell the story this time.

Hey Brad how are you going.
Watched a real game of footy last night
Had little interest in the game last night and from all reports it was shit

I wacked 25 on Jack to win the Brownlow at 250 to 1 so had a passing interest in this game

Watching Jack closely this year he runs incredibly hard both ways
So didevery othe mid in that game

Our midfieders dont
No flower excuses
Our mids just cruize
All of them

And its not been addressed

We are so far behind the top teams
This is one just area

How would you know, you just said you didn't watch us?

Or are you basing it on previous games you haven't watched?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Glad you enjoyed the Swans game keogh. They're going well.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

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#DonTheStash

Yep
and Collingwood went well as well
Without Swann
and Pennders had a shocker
But hey wasnt it Sticks and Ratts who said that we were a top 4 side this year.

Why is it that guys like Blair and Beames step up

And we dont

Is it
recruiting
fitness
injury management
poor structures
poor coaching
Cimm I will take assume that if just about every post says the game didnt reach great heights then it was shit

Brad
The club needs a total review from top to bottom
Reckon Sticks will be in charge of that given his track record
Nah

We are average
I havent been to see us play since the Essendon* game because I am sick of us being average

Have I ever disagreed with this?

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010