Can start the ball rolling on the medical front now:

* - We haven't been able to keep the majority of our talls on the park at once for a number of seasons now. Large majority of which seem to be workload related. Or are just some players not all that committed to rehab? (Such as those we signed to a three year deal bafflingly last year..)

* - Why does no other club come close to our inability to diagnose the severity of otherwise meaningless injuries? Plenty of soft tissue injuries that are disregarded, that suddenly become 2 week injuries, that evolve into 6 week injuries. Are we disregarding the views of the players on this front?

* - Our record with sending players back on to the park after injuries to soften the impact of losing a rotation on the interchange is ordinary also. A policy that needs to be reconsidered?

* - We've been hamstrung with the VFL schedule this year, in terms of getting players back up to scratch fitness wise. Playing them in the development league - is this sufficient? Do we need to look at better ideas, seeing as we can't rely on the VFL schedule?

* - Robert Hyde alluded to having one training session with his AFL listed players on a Fri night. An exaggeration/simplified comment? Or do we need to review the training levels for those playing most of the year in the magoos? That's where the majority of our injuries have come from...

* - I know of at least two incidents this year where players have been given a cortisone shot that has only made an injury far worse. Do we have a set policy in place for when they're used? Who is involved in the decision making process? Players having a say? Coach? Medicos? Surgeons?

* - We play as many games at Etihad as any other side - can we point to how our medical and fitness teams have assessed the playing group over the past decade of playing there, and how we've adopted our approach post-games at Etihad to cope?

* - Rushing back players from injury.....yeah, no hope there.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

...however looking at it with a glass half-full approach, we do not have any players taking ketamine nor any on the bath salts.

Anyone in the know, will the review be done internally or externally?

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The review will go like this:

Sticks: So Ratts, why didn't we make top 4?
Ratts: Injuries to AJ and Bower killed us. It's all Cordy's fault.
Sticks: No worries, try again next year. Andy - anything to add?
Andy McKay: *debates internally whether it's worth rocking the boat*
Sticks: what about Swannie? Anything to report?
Andy: Swannie is down on Lygon street at Donini's
Sticks: Streuth. Oh well bugger it lets hit the pub before Jeannie turns up


END OF REVIEW

Has there been any confirmation that there will even be a review?

ouch.....i remember those in the dead of winter in canberra at a christian brothers school in 1963 and 1964...............but gee i turned out well....didn't i BS?

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Correction

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so sad but this actually made me giggle hustla..no offence................ but since when have we cared about the 'external'

does anyone know if McKay could challenge and/or overthrow sticks, and also can swan make changes to the coaching &dev&med staff without putting it to a board vote?

is the only possible way the pres can be 'replaced' is by way of the boards & members vote?

or can swan overrule protocol in certain circumstances?

how can we reduce the board number back down to a sensible number? does it have to come via members vote? or again, can the chairman make a decision to reduce the board numbers? or even retire them without needing it to go to a members vote?

is there a way we can make Jeanne the official club Matriarch, as opposed to vice pres? its old school but I like the sound of it, so her position isnt determined under the same guidelines of being voted in or niominated as it is with the other board members? she basucally remains matriarch till she or the bloke withthe beard and the stick decides eoughs enough?

Any other supporters feel like they have been copping it internally big time since about round 3 ????

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McKay is happy with the role he has. That's his forte. He has no intention to overthrow Sticks...he wants a paid position within the football club and Operations Manager is it.



You require 100 votes from voting members to challenge a Board. The challenge can also come from within, but won't. In all likelihood, Sticks will only stand down if everyone around him says it's a good idea and someone appropriate is standing in the wings.



The board appoints the CEO. Greg Swann can't fart without first getting approval from the board or executive.



The reduction in board members is happening. It reduces by one at the end of this year and another two should go the following year. It will happen, just not overnight.



It's extremely unlikely that members will get a board vote in the next two/three years. It's been a couple of years already since a members vote took place. The board is no longer answerable to the membership. Technically - the way Carlton operate, you are a season ticket holder, not a member. I view the ongoing Visy sponsorship as Richard Pratt's bequest to the club. However it comes with strings attached. One of these strings attached is obviously two family members on the board. I would prefer Anthony Pratt to Jeanne Pratt, but again - members won't get a say. She's there until she decides it's time to move on or the board gets overthrown. Can't see the latter happening anytime soon.

So what your saying is that Synbad only needs 100 backers then he can challenge the board ?

Sticks vs Synbad

I can.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

It starts with the members filing for an EGM.

Isn't that why Synners has been campaigning here for the last few months?

TC'ers can think for themselves, but this is Synners fav. place to repeat him..err, explain himself.

As you'd think that amazing zeal and energy could be better applied in to action, and yet, it does not, I suspect it is the pre cursor to some sort of spill campaign.


or, maybe not.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

He drove me to drink in the live AFL/Judd thread last night.....Effes and J J were doing a great job with a running commentary; and #&%^$% Synbad kept interrupting with his inane, meaningless chatter...........

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Surely stability is more important than a spill.

100 members with voting rights...where you going to find them?

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Just to clarify, it was Graham Smorgon who built the board up to 12 people at the end of 2006. Before that, the club had stated for a long time that they thought 6-8 board members was the right number. Smorgon did it to counter the growing number of well-connected Carlton outsiders (like Tom Elliott). Despite Smorgon being ousted shortly afterward, the Pratt/Kernahan led administration has taken 6 years to address the problem, and will take 8-9 years to rectify it.

Things don't happen quickly at Carlton anymore. When Stephen Kernahan joined the board in 1997 there were 8 board members. As far as I am concerned, once you cut the football and membership/marketing sub-committees from the board, 8 is the right number.