Yes, the SEN'ers think it is bad,but haven't factored in possible trade moves.

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The only way this news will please me is if he's signed on for no more than 250k

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Fair to say Cam Mooney doesn't understand much apart from "see ball, get ball" .

Of course that's shortly followed by "kick point".

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I hope Essendon* folds.

We now have currency to trade with

yep. A thousand bucks per centimeter would be good.

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Cam Mooney can't add anything other than to discuss the good old years at Geelong.
Largely a commentator only given given credibility by his on-air cohorts.

Securing Warnock was a prudent move.

Nah, should have let him walk. Good one Cam

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I guess that it's fair to say two genuine ruckmen on the list is fine if we have Casboult / Rowe / Mitchell playing, but until they are genuine AFL players themselves, the club cant gamble on releasing a ruck of Warnock's caliber.

As some have already said, signing him up again is the wise thing to do. One might say it is 'playing the percentages' considering injuries to rucks are common (just look at our list alone over the last 2-3 years).

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ouch!

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How many good games has he given us in his first 4 years? He has played 37 in total for us and about half of those weren't much good. He has has been on very big dough - $400k was the figure bandied about. How does he get three more years on the back of that? If we didn't have Big K then maybe, but how can Warnock play anywhere else but first ruck? We lost Jacobs because we recruited Warnock and his output has been so far behind Jacobs its not funny. We can't have three rucks in the firsts and we have holes in our side that might be addressed if we trade one of our rucks. I was hoping it was Warnock who would be traded. And as for how many rucks you need on your list, you neeed one young developing ruck, a battling tough guy and a good first ruck and maybe a pinch hitter, you don't need three guys who are first rucks and all about the same age.

Unfortunately I think Ratts thinks Warnock is J Madden - he's not and footy has changed since the Madden years.

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Very popular with the boys

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Some very good finals. Can't argue that. His types tend to really develop in the 2nd half of their careers. Don't knock the value of a decent 6'11" ruckman over time, they usually end with with terrific careers. Problem is too many think "now". If we did trade him and he really did well the same people would bag the club saying how dumb it was to get rid of him. That's how it usually works isn't it? There's a reason one doesn't take 50% of supporters of any club, on any forum, seriously. Think in small terms.

Harry took 5 years to be any good too. At times he was useless. 6th year just missed the Brownlow and never looked back.

Jolly and Ottens Champs at 24+ .

He's good already and he WILL GET BETTER.

When he's fit everything works. He blocks and tackles, holds marks and kicks a loooooooong way.

Just got to be fit.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

If he can stay on the park I think he'll be every bit as good as Harry.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I'd love to see a list of all the rucks who ever played AFL and see how many of them were any good before about 25.

Warnock is 25.

Considering we've seen what he is capable of on more than a couple of occasions (including finals) what we need is for him to get fit and healthy, have a decent preseason and gain the sort of consistency that rucks usually find in the second half of their careers.

At which point he'll be coming up against a bunch of rucks in the first half of their careers.

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Great post GWS.

If there was a graph which showed Age v Ruckmen becoming good, there'd be a sharp turn at 24-25. It takes that long.

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Happy to keep him for the reasons mentioned....but 3 years??

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Good move IMO.

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Warnock is a quality ruckman when fit. He hasn't (as yet) justified the big dollars but we need quality players on the list. If we didn't sign, he'd walk and everyone would whinge that we got nothing.

His worth was shown in September last year. Happy to keep.