Not blaming Fev. He is who he is. But players from the Fev era are messed up.

The club made the call to stick with him as he brought the crowds in and gave us all something to smile about during a dark time but it has come at a cost.

Still i would love to see us fight out this year and plant some seeds for the future. Folding for a rebuild and picks is not the answer in my opinion. Well it has been more or less proven it is not the answer. It will only fuel the demons that haunt our list.

I love the way people keep referring to "the dark time" or "the dark years" as though they were part of ancient history - or at least some time in the past. We are still IN the dark years....... unless you think that being 9th on the ladder half way through Round 12 (with Richmond about to go past us this afternoon) is somehow being in a new golden era.

#wakeup. #headinthesand.

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ah, but 9th is so much better than it was in the dark years.
I remember, we used to fit the whole club into a cardboard box.
We'd get up before we went to bed, to go to work...
ah...9th..the luxury!!

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

This is what we have been doing since 2005. We have had plenty of early draft picks and time to rebuild for a shot at a premiership. There should be no excuses. Our biggest problem has been our coaching strategies and lack of player development. We have been relying on too few to win games and this is not sustainable. I don't know whether we need to go for a complete rebuild at this point in time, however, if we do there is no point if the two points mentioned above are not rectified.

People who are now questioning the Judd deal should remember what he has brought to the club. It amazes me that people can be so short sighted and simply base their opinion on his average 2012. It ain't his fault that the game plan (s) and depth within the team is suspect. In hindsight, if he had not been at Carlton over the last 5 years then we would be in worse shape (with Ratten).

One thing, forget the umps. Yes we had a raw deal, the AJ one followed by an identical one not paid ag wce and also judd's 50 followed by what should have been a 50 ag wce for a carlton goal (when wce player handed the ball to the guy on the mark not the blues player) made me angry. But that wasn't what cost us the game. And we do a get less of the 50/50s over there but WCE and Freeo travel every second week and get less of the 50/50s here every second week.

Umps annoy me when the blues play, but I rarely notice them when I am watching a game where I don't care about the result. Focus on what you can control, be in front, be first to the ball. The excuses of umps and injuries only mask more serious deficiencies.

yep.

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Settle down Moshe25. They were dark days when we went to games hoping for fev to kick a few and nothing more.

It can be said that a year we don't win the flag is a dark year but these days don't compare to them dark days mid through the early to late 2000's .

The AJ free kick was a free every day of the week. If you dive on the ball, it is your responsibility to get it out. He didn't.
If he had half a brain, he would have rushed the point.

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Sorry I disagree. He may have dived on it, but it is quite clear by the footage that ball was in fact out. He did not have possession of the ball.

It was a completely wrong decision.

Having possession is irrelevant. If you dive on it, you are responsible for clearing it out of the congestion. AJ may not have had his hands on the ball but Jamo was holding it into him.
The interpretation is simple and all the players should know it.

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its still a bullshit 'interpretation'

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I agree. The player making the effort is penalised but the players should know. It was stupid not to concede the point.

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I concur

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

My angst was mainly the inconsistency. There was an identical situation involving a WCE player a few minutes later that wasn't paid. If the AJ one was a free, fine, pay it every time not just sometimes. Not that I am allowing umps decisions to mask our performance....

We need a clip to be put up. From my memory he grabbed the ball and was immediately tackled to the ground, no diving.

It astounds me that AJ gets picked ahead of Lucas and Russell.
Nearly every time he receives the ball under pressure he either coughs it up, loses his feet or gives away a free kick.
It reminds me of watching Peake and Eddy playing for St Kilda in 2010.

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We’ve gone from looking like a good side not really trying to an average side that is really trying. We’re a side that has lost confidence and belief. If the game’s close, I expect us to lose.

Terrific game and effort from Carrots. Real leader of the club. Probably should be captain.
Some wonderful defensive spoiling from Jamison.
Duigan’s form has been good the last 2 weeks.
Robbo had a terrific 2nd half. But not quite at the same level this year, after his break out season last year.
Enjoying Tuohy’s ongoing development. I reckon he’ll have a terrific career for us.
After a few good weeks, McLean didn’t really get near it.
Really happy that we’re getting games into Watson. He’s got some limitations. But doing well. And he also has some real weapons. His kicking is incredible. Nice that he can sit back inside 50 and be a distributor. Hopefully that means we can be a bit more attacking with players like Gibbs.
Not quite sure why we would be playing Joseph ahead of Bootsma. Bootsma’s form has been better. And surely we must be in development mode for the future.

Unfortunate that the umpire was unsighted but as BV said, you dive on the ball then it's your responsibility to get rid of it. Every player knows or should know this by now.

Should've rushed the point...

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He didn't dive onto the ball, was in no position to knock it through and was swamped immediately.

You ARE kidding, aren't you? Since the St Kilda game, these days compare a lot to "them dark days mid through the early to late 2000's". At least there was some hope in those days (Fev will kick 10 today, Walker will take MOTY, Murph will be good in the future, Gibbs will be a star, Juddy's great, etc, etc). I gotta tell ya, there is absolutely NOTHING I look forward to now when I go to the footy. In fact, although I barrack like crazy, I worry that if we win, the issues will get swept under the carpet.

I also hate that it comes down to any of:
- umpiring decisions;
- AJ's "mistakes";
- Juddy's form;
- etc, etc.

I'm not going to repeat myself, but suffice to say, I reckon we're just #Rearranging.Deck.Chairs.On.The.Titanic.

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