Should be the only target for the team despite this form slump.

Dreamer, you know you are a dreamer Well, can you put your hands in your head ? Oh no I said, "Dreamer, you're nothing but a dreamer

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I'm feeling for j.scarponi at the moment he obviously loves the club and will defend it actions to the hilt and good on him

But geez even blind Freddy can see we are on some serious shit at the moment with no joy on the horizon


we are all in a world of pain right now as all those spoons all that tanking 10 years of crap is falling apart right before our very eyes

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Yeah I feel sorry for him too....but good on him for hanging in there....

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I just dont want to see a calamaity after calamity...I struggle to understand tearing the club apart when poor form is largely due to 7-8 key players out injured. Last month has been unacceptable but there is definite improvement as key players return. It has been good that it happened now than round 18 - but improvement needs to start this Friday.

Just give us the cup...

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Don't think anyone could deny that we would improve with 7 of those key players back.
If you think round 3 when we flogged the pies by 10 goals :-

Murphy close to BOG
Carrazzo BOG destroys pendlebury
Waite plays a great game in the forward line bathing Reid early then his replacement.
Henda does the job on Cloke
Laidler solid as a rock
Kreuzer dominates Jolly

Then you have Yaz coming back from injury. Duigan can improve the team in time and TBird is an ok 2nd option if no forwards are available.

So really there is no doubt we will be a better side with those guys back.

The issue is these injuries have exposed our lists 2nd teir players and our list management (Icke ) and how poor the heart of the list is when it cannot get close to covering them injuries.

OMG

You seriously believe this.

Collingwood were moving away from a Malthouse era and into a Buckley era.
They tried to play the game on our terms.

Noone has done that since to us.. and we are unable to adjust.

You actually conveiently forgot to add TWO Collingwood players went down early..and Murphy hasnt had a good game since.
And Carrazzo under pressure SEE WEST COAST final last year... is a turn over merchant ...

And that the Woods have just as many out as us... but theirs are flag players.. and since that game havent been disgraced..!!

If you dont heed the signs.. your future is compromised!!!

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This reminds of the time we won the Wiz Cup and everyone thought that form was going to carry us into the season proper

We win the first 3 get worked out and havent a bloody clue what to do about it

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Excuses excuses. Injuries, new coach, bad tactics..................we flogged them. They couldnt match our intensity and we played the game on our terms.

We had them done before the injuries even with Armfield on one leg.

We would be a better team with those injured since then back in the side.

In the context of how we've travelled since this guy was out, this comment took my breath away. Doc's analysis of a few weeks ago just makes that so flowering obvious, too (to those without deep seated prejudices, anyway).

Refer another FINAL v Swans in 2010 when this "non-competitive", "woeful kick" virtually hauled us back into the game after 1/2 time. You do realise he just got up to play that day too, a hammy nearly keeping him at home?? Takes courage to not only play so well, but so effectively in those circumstances.

What a disgraceful distortion of the player he has now become, pull your head in.

Why are you pinning it on Icke, Club?
I've asked you in another thread, why does Icke carry the responsibility?

As for Scarponi, you're wasting your time. He's here to stir the pot, not to have intelligent debate.
So far he's telling us McLean should never play for Carlton again, (4th in contested possessions, 1st in pressure acts and equal 2nd in scoring involvements for the game after an excellent game the week before) and that membership, sponsorship and everything else is "booming".

He's like hurricane Katrina at the moment. Leaving wreckage behind him in any debate he enters.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Malthouse or Roos are the prefect coaches to come in and weed out those who arent prepared to pay the price....

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Icke was our list manager. Our list is out of wack i believe due to the Watson draft. All 3 talls may end up being good but at an expense. We should have had better back ups for the onballers at this stage IMO.

Looks like you're doing a fine job yourself there. I stand by my comments on McLean. Not good enough & need to recruit better. You don't like it, too bad. Heat was on and he went missing. 100 game player in the system for almost 10 years, needs to do better and has had enough opportunities like Curnow, Joseph and Bower..

Goes back to the 2009 draft

Lucas
Davies
Kerr

One evidently was a poor kick when drafted and still hasn't come on in his third year. The other is a half back flanker (already had plenty of those) with shoddy disposal and poor decision making. The other hasn't debuted and might have some talent but also might not be a very hard worker.

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"When Carrots comes back.... i can visualise Ratten saying "Youve just cost me my job!!!" to him.

You making our Carrots sounds like he is Ablett.

He isnt... he is an extremely limited footballer... who tries...!!!"



I'd give my left ball for a couple of players who'll try.

Under estimating Carrots here greatly, his disposal isnt elite but his concentration, determination, discipline and strength is elite.

The club has clearly stated we have a "best available" approach. Until that changes, the football manager cannot be held responsible for an unbalanced list.
Beides, Icke was footy ops manager. Its a big difference to list manager.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Looking forward to Ratts' Members email "from the coaches desk" about the Port game,
he is just getting the secretary to use 'find and replace' Adelaide with Port Adelaide.

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