How is that trolling?

If I was trolling, I would have pretended to be a Blues supporter and subtly caused tension.

I came over to TC to see just how much of an impact this loss has had on the supporters and I read that post and it actually made me frustrated with where your team is at and why.

There's nothing better then when the Pies, Blues, Tiges and Bombers are flying all at once - it makes the G an amazing place.

But this mentality of importing stars to get rich quick is pretty shallow.

Nothing is as good as watching your own home grown players develop into premiership heroes - so all I can say is look in your own backyard and try and develop what you've got first before you go nuts trying to trade in players to use as bandaids e.g., Jacobs instead of Warnock, Grigg instead of McLean etc..

pal i think we've developed some decent talent over the years we do have 16 cups...
it's not all doom and gloom some of us haven't lost the faith
and in case you hadn't noticed EVERY CLUB HAS THE MENTALITY OF IMPORTING STARS WHEN THEY CAN
some just do it better than others

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"Then joked and said he (Jack himself) probably wouldn't even need to play until round 2 against Collingwood."

Yes but other clubs don't need to get over it the way we do.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

maybe radelaide should give us jacobs back then too if that's the mentality
i mean we developed him right? and then had to give him away for nothing

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"Then joked and said he (Jack himself) probably wouldn't even need to play until round 2 against Collingwood."

Way of missing the point.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

that comment wasn't aimed at you, it was aimed at the crows troll

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"Then joked and said he (Jack himself) probably wouldn't even need to play until round 2 against Collingwood."

Actually I thought his/her post was quite measured and to the point. Other supporters DO hate us because we ARE arrogant and HAVE brought in players instead of developing our own. But we have done it more successfully than the rest and think it is the only way. It is a legitimate strategy if the club is close and needs a CHF for example and it is going to get worse with free agency.

Getting back to opposition supporters, how would Sydney feel losing DRJ and Deisel. We stole Greg Wells from Melbourne. Scotland, Marchesani, Hogg, Rice, Perovic spring immediately to mind. That doesn't even begin the list if you include the interstate coups (Kernahan etc), although we did develop a lot of them from a young age. How will we feel if Yarran goes to GWS? or if Gibbs had been lured back to Adelaide after one contract? That's what we have done for years. We are Carlton and Flower the rest. remember? Well that's fine but don't get uppity because someone from outside wants to come here and post something sensible.

Judd doesn't count because he instigated the move and not us but we did think he was the messiah and he is only a great footballer who can't play forever nor can he carry the team.

Yes, all teams do it and we have done it better than most. But Collingwood got their latest on the back of Ball and Jolly. Geelong has always seemed to develop their own with the exception of Ottens recently. Adelaide and Port haven't done it as much because nobody wants to go there. Same with WA. Sydney got Mumford and The Irish kid in dicey trades. Essendon* seem to do it internally. Campo doesn't count. Richmond have tried it for decades with no success. They stole Grigg. I was one of a few who wanted him to stay but he had no respect from the club or the 'supporters'. Why would he stay when he can get a regular game elsewhere? There are still posters here who think he is a list clogger and Collins is a better player! Now they have Maric to go with Grigg. We are not alone but we need to look at development as a long term strategy, even if it is for trade reasons. Just putting band aids on a rotting wound won't work.

I think having visitors post here is healthy provided they don't just come here to gloat and don't have anything serious to add. What he/she said was less vitriolic than some of our own 'supporters' have posted here. If the truth hurts so much, just go with the fantasy.

I apologise to lovers of the english language for this post as it was written, cut, pasted, chopped, hacked and not well written by any standards but I will plead anger. I am as angry with the result and the implications as the rest of you. It has clouded my otherwise clear head.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

We most definitely did not go out and "get" Judd. He chose us. People have strange memories.

So Josh Kennedy pick 3 and 20 just chose West Coast did they

Probably neither.

Collingwood didn't have the picks.
Essendon* and Melbourne's facilities were shit.

Bradbury.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Agree gibbs for danger would be awesome but let's be honest danger is the better player at present and we'd need to cushion the deal. Throw in Russell who is also SA boy yeah.

Once he chose us we had to work out a deal, but he chose us. He could have chosen Richmond or Essendon* and there wouldn't have been a thing we could have done about it.

We cherry pick individuals cos thats what we have always done.
Its about the machine!!!

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For the last 3 weeks the players seem flat and out of condition. I suspect something is wrong with our pre-season program. Qatar might have been too much.

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I need some new conspiracy theories; all my others have come true.

Thought we can flick the switch on anytime we like .
And we had no concerns with out pre season form.??

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The point is the pre season form can now be looked upon as being a pretty good indicator.

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God I am in the shits this morning.

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
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#DopeThenStash

Let's not get ridiculous. I hate trading for players and love developing our own, but judd is one of the greatest players to pull on the navy blue. His contribution puts him beyond criticism. He carries the team on his shoulders week after week. Imagine if the bombers got him. They'd support him and make the most of him instead of leaving everything to him. The more pertinent question is whether, withbJacobs already on our list, we should have given wce picks 1&3 and kept josh k. I love kruse but Jacobs and Kennedy wd be better value than kruse and no one.

The problem with yesterday is that it isn't an aberration. The Crows exposed flaws and were good enough to widen the cracks into canyons.
Watching the game was like men against boys. Physically they were in another league.
Before the game Ratts was on AW and talking about how he instructed the players that we may have to kick long in a 50-50 at ES as opposed to MCG or something like that. Malthouse was flabbergasted that the players would be told to play 2 different ways at a ground where we play the majority of our footy. Our coaching is reactive but not even effectively so. Our responses to the opposition moves dont even make sense.
To me the players look like they don't believe in what they are doing anymore. We are scrambling and improvising.
I am genuinely fearful this is going to get even uglier.
My friend brought his Colligwood supporting BIL yesterday. At 1/4 time he said, Adelaide may kick the next 4 the way they're playing. Even though we were in front I said "I'm not worried they will kick the next 4, I'm worried they'll kick the next 8". I wasn't far wrong

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Doesn't feel that much better this morning.

Worst thing out of all this - we have Melbourne next week. We'll come out and destroy them by 10 or 12 goals, blokes will kick showreel goals, take hangers and play like millionares and have it come off. And then they'll think we are 'back'. Might almost be better if we lose.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end