Talking Carlton Index Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington CFC Home CFC Membership CFC Shop CFC Fixture Blueseum
It is currently Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:21 am

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 151 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:42 pm 
Offline
Craig Bradley
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 21, 2005 5:15 pm
Posts: 7360
Rexy wrote:
Stamos wrote:
Coaches' Votes
Carlton vs Greater Western Sydney

7 Hampson (Carl)
5 Kennedy (GWS)
4 Bower (Carl)
4 Greene (GWS)
3 McDonald (GWS)
3 Robinson (Carl)
2 Jamison (Carl)
1 Mohr (GWS)
1 Power (GWS)

So Sheedy gave 1 Carlton player votes in an 11 goal loss :donk:

:lol:

:lol: :lol:

Seriously... Hammer, Bower, Robbo & Jamo our best players - just adds to the weirdness of this game.

_________________
“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” ― Richard Feynman


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:44 pm 
Offline
Laurie Kerr

Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:35 pm
Posts: 105
I was surprised how little reaction Bower got from his teammates for his goal in the second quarter. I thought it was one of the few highlights of the day. He took the game on, took a risk going for a run through the corridor, and even under pressure was able to slot it home. It was inspirational to the crowd but I don't remember any of the players coming up to congratulate him when he trotted back to his position outside the centre square. I had expected some of his colleagues from the backline to come up to him to congratulate his effort. But there was nothing at all I recall. Perhaps a display of how flat the team was at that stage of the game.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:54 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:13 pm
Posts: 21075
Location: Missing Kouta
Supporters should watch the first quarter again if they think we weren't on and wanting to take on their kids. 20 points to one with six minutes left on the clock. Walker and even Garlett were laying big shepherds on the Giants to get us going. Good sign that the coaching group and playing group weren't happy with winning by ten goals.

[youtube]QBhPnU4evFk[/youtube]

For a new team, GWS have solid first and second year (their 17 year old signings) players in their squad. Seemingly more than the Suns who were giving games to skinny teenagers such as Tape last year. Giants appear to play a harder and more disciplined style of footy than the Suns. May have a better list balance due to the tall forwards and backs they picked up.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:14 pm 
Offline
Rod Ashman

Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:27 am
Posts: 2345
Lonny Mac wrote:
I was surprised how little reaction Bower got from his teammates for his goal in the second quarter. I thought it was one of the few highlights of the day. He took the game on, took a risk going for a run through the corridor, and even under pressure was able to slot it home. It was inspirational to the crowd but I don't remember any of the players coming up to congratulate him when he trotted back to his position outside the centre square. I had expected some of his colleagues from the backline to come up to him to congratulate his effort. But there was nothing at all I recall. Perhaps a display of how flat the team was at that stage of the game.


Or perhaps that they're just our expectations now.
Time for high-fiving is over, if we care to be a professional group. Do your deed, keep your focus and get back to position for the next play, is the current order.

No time for childs play if we want to win a premiership.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:15 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:13 pm
Posts: 21075
Location: Missing Kouta
http://www.smartreplay.afl.com.au/?roun ... ality=high

What a chase by Kreuzer after Thornton kicked a point.

#Mancrush


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:20 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:06 pm
Posts: 1098
Todays report on the game in the HUN says that Sheedy RESTED Cameron, Folau and Cornes in preparation for the Gold Coast game. One word for Sheedy....................hypocrite.
Cant believe the coaches votes, just shows what a flog he is.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:12 pm 
Offline
Stephen Kernahan
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm
Posts: 15848
Just watched the last qtr....thought we ran out the game well and were quite clean

_________________
"I had to eat"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:26 pm 
Offline
Stephen Silvagni

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
Posts: 25192
Location: Bondi Beach
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Just watched the last qtr....thought we ran out the game well and were quite clean


Just did too after OTC.

We seemed to grab the ball more asertively, with purpose.
Amazing how they can turn it on.

I liked the fact that Hammer nelieves it was complacency.
To win by 10 goals after being challenged shows we've got 'it' in spades.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:32 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:24 am
Posts: 1217
Location: Melbourne
teknodeejay wrote:
... as mentioned above Gibbs is the one largely this year who has me concerned. Yeah he is the fourth highest average disposer of the ball... but some of his disposal (especially yesterday) was lazy. Also, he is among the bottom half of the team in terms of contested ball. He's also well down on his tackles. Loose man you say? Great, but his 1%ers are among the worst of the team.

Maybe it's circumstantial or in fact instructional, but in being at all Melbourne games this year the observations are clear that at present he isn't putting in the work rate that you would expect from one of the top 5 at the club and he has definitely shirked a few contests. Maybe he will open it up in the second half of the year. He was certainly pivotal in the crunch end of last year and missed terribly in the Perth final.

Gibbs is one of my favorite players... maybe that's why I am frustrated that I see others around him putting in 100% and he looks as though he's going at 85... someone tell me I'm wrong.


Could not agree more. All the pre season hype about how he was going to be the one to light up the league this year seems to have been a real misjudgment. He looks lazy not laconic and he just doesn't seem to impose himself on the game as he could and should. Maybe it's mental, maybe its coaching, whatever; I agree his performance has disappointed me immensely. We need him hard edged and committed to be a real threat this year.

_________________
"Two roads diverged in a wood,
and I,
I took the one less travelled by,
and that has made all the difference."

Robert Frost


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:41 pm 
Offline
Ken Hunter
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am
Posts: 10576
The Vet wrote:
teknodeejay wrote:
... as mentioned above Gibbs is the one largely this year who has me concerned. Yeah he is the fourth highest average disposer of the ball... but some of his disposal (especially yesterday) was lazy. Also, he is among the bottom half of the team in terms of contested ball. He's also well down on his tackles. Loose man you say? Great, but his 1%ers are among the worst of the team.

Maybe it's circumstantial or in fact instructional, but in being at all Melbourne games this year the observations are clear that at present he isn't putting in the work rate that you would expect from one of the top 5 at the club and he has definitely shirked a few contests. Maybe he will open it up in the second half of the year. He was certainly pivotal in the crunch end of last year and missed terribly in the Perth final.

Gibbs is one of my favorite players... maybe that's why I am frustrated that I see others around him putting in 100% and he looks as though he's going at 85... someone tell me I'm wrong.


Could not agree more. All the pre season hype about how he was going to be the one to light up the league this year seems to have been a real misjudgment. He looks lazy not laconic and he just doesn't seem to impose himself on the game as he could and should. Maybe it's mental, maybe its coaching, whatever; I agree his performance has disappointed me immensely. We need him hard edged and committed to be a real threat this year.


We need to accept that you need all types of players to win a flag and Gibbs has plenty of positives we need and use!
I would personally play him more midfield/forward but I have no problem with the way he plays.
Very Goddard like if you ask me. :wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:43 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:00 pm
Posts: 24635
Location: Kaloyasena
Gibbs had a lot of flair when he was 16 and running around in the SANFL - but Pagan knocked that right out of him turning him into a tagger/run with player in his first few seasons - now Gibbs' mindset is about playing the percentages and he generally plays them well.

I remember early in his first season might have been against Brisbane he collected the ball dodged and shimmied past a few players and kicked a point - but he has rarely if ever attempted anything similar since.

If we can get Laidler back on the park and trust an in form (and less flaky) Jordan Russell on the other half back flank - I would like to see Gibbs get an extended run in the forward line and sometime through the middle.

_________________
"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:31 am 
Offline
Craig Bradley

Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:36 am
Posts: 6406
AGRO wrote:
Gibbs had a lot of flair when he was 16 and running around in the SANFL - but Pagan knocked that right out of him turning him into a tagger/run with player in his first few seasons - now Gibbs' mindset is about playing the percentages and he generally plays them well.

I remember early in his first season might have been against Brisbane he collected the ball dodged and shimmied past a few players and kicked a point - but he has rarely if ever attempted anything similar since.

If we can get Laidler back on the park and trust an in form (and less flaky) Jordan Russell on the other half back flank - I would like to see Gibbs get an extended run in the forward line and sometime through the middle.



Agree Agro. At the moment Gibbs is treading water. He is a neat footballer. Great anticipation, good kick thinks slightly ahead of the play and is very good one on one in the air and at ground level.
However he is playing predominately as a loose man in defence and has shown little courage when going back to help a fellow team mate. He lacks courage to take a hit for the team. I dont believe footballers like that change. Yarran is the same.
He seems to lack interest to me as an observer. Hie laconic style seems to have become more laconic.
Six years in the AFL system and he is playing a loose man in defence. I reckon he maybe thinks just like you and me. He expected better things and its not happening. Maybe Bryce would prefer being amongst the midfield action more . At least life was better tagging gun mids.
We and he should expect more. Number one pick in the 06 superdraft. Running around the SANFL at 16 dominating.
In one way its tough on Gibbs because the expectations are so high. On the other hand maybe he simply needs to have a tougher mind set to take on games. Time is starting to run out. He is playing the same roll as Hurn,Mattner etc.
Gets you thinking if we swapped him for a Taylor Walker and a draft pick it might be a good deal.
Ask yourself posters. If Bryce was out of the team how would that effect the team's peformance at the moment. Not that much I reckon.
Agree again Agro. Would like Gibbs to play as a foward. Third tall. His skills would be better used in this area.
I personally am fast coming to the conclusion that the expectations that he will be a gun midfielder are a distant myth.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:45 am 
Offline
Craig Bradley

Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:36 am
Posts: 6406
Hammer impressive in the interview.
Speaks well and honestly.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:25 am 
Offline
Ken Hands
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:11 am
Posts: 456
Location: Denmark
Bootsma was awesome... He looks like napoleon dynamite.

_________________
"our guest is dressed by hand-me-downs, hair designed by pillow"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:33 am 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:37 pm
Posts: 1378
AGRO wrote:
If we can get Laidler back on the park and trust an in form (and less flaky) Jordan Russell on the other half back flank - I would like to see Gibbs get an extended run in the forward line and sometime through the middle.


Perhaps keeping a few tricks up our sleeve for later in the year. Hopefully the backline is settled with return from injury & the Gibbon will roam through the forward line in the finals.
Gibbs Waite Garlett
Betts Hampson Walker


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:15 am 
Offline
Bruce Doull
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 6:10 pm
Posts: 33618
Location: COMFORTABLY DISSATISFIED
PB nominated for GOTW

_________________
WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:27 pm 
Offline
Stephen Kernahan
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm
Posts: 15848
The Vet wrote:
teknodeejay wrote:
... as mentioned above Gibbs is the one largely this year who has me concerned. Yeah he is the fourth highest average disposer of the ball... but some of his disposal (especially yesterday) was lazy. Also, he is among the bottom half of the team in terms of contested ball. He's also well down on his tackles. Loose man you say? Great, but his 1%ers are among the worst of the team.

Maybe it's circumstantial or in fact instructional, but in being at all Melbourne games this year the observations are clear that at present he isn't putting in the work rate that you would expect from one of the top 5 at the club and he has definitely shirked a few contests. Maybe he will open it up in the second half of the year. He was certainly pivotal in the crunch end of last year and missed terribly in the Perth final.

Gibbs is one of my favorite players... maybe that's why I am frustrated that I see others around him putting in 100% and he looks as though he's going at 85... someone tell me I'm wrong.


Could not agree more. All the pre season hype about how he was going to be the one to light up the league this year seems to have been a real misjudgment. He looks lazy not laconic and he just doesn't seem to impose himself on the game as he could and should. Maybe it's mental, maybe its coaching, whatever; I agree his performance has disappointed me immensely. We need him hard edged and committed to be a real threat this year.


Some in our team have to be in the lower half for contested ball?

_________________
"I had to eat"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:17 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:13 pm
Posts: 21075
Location: Missing Kouta
keogh wrote:
Agree Agro. At the moment Gibbs is treading water. He is a neat footballer. Great anticipation, good kick thinks slightly ahead of the play and is very good one on one in the air and at ground level.

However he is playing predominately as a loose man in defence and has shown little courage when going back to help a fellow team mate. He lacks courage to take a hit for the team. I dont believe footballers like that change. Yarran is the same.
He seems to lack interest to me as an observer. Hie laconic style seems to have become more laconic.

Six years in the AFL system and he is playing a loose man in defence. I reckon he maybe thinks just like you and me. He expected better things and its not happening. Maybe Bryce would prefer being amongst the midfield action more . At least life was better tagging gun mids.
We and he should expect more. Number one pick in the 06 superdraft. Running around the SANFL at 16 dominating.
In one way its tough on Gibbs because the expectations are so high. On the other hand maybe he simply needs to have a tougher mind set to take on games. Time is starting to run out. He is playing the same roll as Hurn,Mattner etc.
Gets you thinking if we swapped him for a Taylor Walker and a draft pick it might be a good deal.
Ask yourself posters. If Bryce was out of the team how would that effect the team's peformance at the moment. Not that much I reckon.

Agree again Agro. Would like Gibbs to play as a foward. Third tall. His skills would be better used in this area.
I personally am fast coming to the conclusion that the expectations that he will be a gun midfielder are a distant myth.

You need to name Carlton as your most hated team in grro's thread.

What a moronic post.

Trolls aren't this footy stupid.

What a load of the proverbial to compare Gibbs to Mattner and Hurn because Ratts plays him there. Gibbs is more than that. And topped off by saying that Gibbs doesn't go when he has to. Watch the Collingwood game again and change your preconceived opinions.

Nothing funnier than seeing ludicrous trade offers that wouldn't go through in the real world of AFL clubs.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:27 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:13 pm
Posts: 21075
Location: Missing Kouta
AGRO wrote:
I remember early in his first season might have been against Brisbane he collected the ball dodged and shimmied past a few players and kicked a point - but he has rarely if ever attempted anything similar since.

[youtube]1SK3y1a8TYs[/youtube]

[youtube]SNa26XAccSg[/youtube]

This should insert this lyric into our theme song...

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
'Til it's gone


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:51 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:52 am
Posts: 9105
Location: Nth Fitzroy
Gibbs is super important to our team Keogh. Go back and watch each game this season. He sets us up out of the back half. He is not always the loose man in defence. We try to free him up but if it doesnt happen he is happy to take a man and thrash him if the ball comes near. This usually frees up Yarran who hasnt been tagged out once this year because gibbs is there if they try it.

He may not be the Buckley or Ricuitto you dreamt of but that is not his fault. Its your dream. Nothing wrong with being the no.1 attacking defender in the league. It is not a crime.

Having a great season.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 151 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], sjenx and 51 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group