Naturally they gotta use Scotto in the pic!!

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Overrated!

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dane's trolling again

By the way, is he going to jail re that fight? Longest investigation since the Hon. Craig Thomson

Havent seen anything in that crock little rag

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Look out - you will get blinded by them......

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Different issue. No argument about being classier and stronger being a good thing, but I took it that you were saying that we should be picking certain players primarily to allow players like Judd and Murphy to operate with more freedom. IMO Murphy warrants this sort of special treatment but Judd doesn't.

He doesn't need it, but it would give us another dimension if he can free-wheel from the stoppages rather than drag two blokes and dish off. He'd be in better nick later in the season too without having to rotate him as much.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

the half back flanker boys have it but they run pretty deep in midfield. when we run that deep our half back flanker types have it.

but they did concentrate on midfield when they had to.
Bartel Kelly selwood even tenace varcoe etc.

they didn't start building their team around half back flank types.

same recruiter is it not?

we even took a midfield reject from them and he became a best and fairest.

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oh and Mr c not one person would say they won their flags because of the flanker types you listed over their midfield depth.

spin it anyway you want Wells knows his priorities.

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More spin.

Without checking The Blueseum, Carlton have built around:-

Russell, Hartlett, Blackwell, Bryan, Raso, Betts, Carrazzo, O'hAilpin
Murphy, Kennedy, Bower, Edwards, Saddington, Flint
Gibbs, Hampson, Grigg, Austin, Anderson, Benjamin, Jacobs, Jamison, Cloke
Judd, Kreuzer, Browne, Armfield, Joseph, Hadley, Ellard,
Yarran, Warnock, Robinson, O'keeffe, Tiller, Johnson, Garlett.
Mclean, Lucas, Henderson, Davies, Kerr, Tuohy,
Watson, McCarthy, Mitchell, McInnes, Duigan, Laidler, Curnow
Bootsma, Rowe, Buckley.

Around a quarter or a fifth are half back flankers who haven't played as a midfielder, wingman or forward.

I think the balance looks about right.

Just as a matter of interest, what exactly could have / should have we done?
Even more to the point, what is it exactly we should we be doing to make these things right?

Didn't we recruit Yarran with the view of developing him as a mid-fielder when many wanted a tall?
Didn't we recruit Lucas when most wanted Talia, to bolster our back stocks?
Which year exactly did our recruiters get it so wrong, do you think?
Not Bootsma again, surely?

One year ago, most had Essendon* well in front of us in terms of coaches, players, club etc.
Their youth was touted as being superior to ours and they were much closer to a premiership than we were.
Is that how you see it or do we just go back to Geelongs situation because they won the premiership last year?
Do you think they'll go as well this year because of all the things they did right, or maybe take a backward step, because they couldn't possibly have as good a run with injuries and luck?
If Hawthorn had have got past Collingwood and then beat Geelong, would we be talking about the Hawks as doing everything right, whilst we're still floundering with all that we're doing?
Remember that Hawthorns recruiting department got things very wrong with Thorp, Dowler, Muston, Ellis and possibly Schoenmakers?

We could always do better but to suggest we should just get the best Coach, Recruiter, Adminstration, Players etc. just doesn't work that way.
With many having us top two this year, we can't really be doing everything wrong, could we?

Logic. Pffft. We need to be pro-active and innovative in following what the premiers from the last 5 years have been doing. It's obvious.

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

Whatever you think of Geelong's recruiting one thing is for certain. Given what picks he had at his disposal Wells' peformance in 09 is pure genious. From what I saw Cowan could be a gun as well.

To be fair though 2009 was a pretty good draft year.

Menzel = 17 with Tapscott, Fyfe, Bastinac and Stevens after him
Duncan = 28 with Gunston and Sam Reid after him.

Not saying they didn't select well, but there some pretty good players through that mix.

Take a look at the Eagles game at Etihad and the Hawks game. If other teams play Judd and Murphy like that and the other mids don't protect/block for them...the Blues are toast against at least 5 sides who have equal the midfield theirs.

Downgrading pick 33 to get 40 and 42 could be a good deal, but losing Mumford was a huge loss. TC would have gone into meltdown if we had lost a number one ruckman for Duncan. Think he's a flanker. Good big men are worth so much more than that. Look at what Geelong gave up for Ottens.

Actually we took Yarran as a half forward and turned him into a half back flanker.

Look in order to win flags every post must be a winner.
Its all i care about... itd all i wanna know.
I wanna see flags..
If a team of half back flankers can buck the trend and win the flag ill be rapt.
But i think you need ball winners.
Cos ball winners get their hands on the ball and give you first use.
Half back flankers are usually a reactive lot.
Theyre not usually proficient at getting their hands on the ball first and giving you first use of the pill.

We shall see....

As far as im concerned never has a premiership been won with a team built around half back flankers..

We might be the first.. who knows?

Then we are inovators of footy and we do revolutionise the wheel.

Just call me "Thomas" on this one.

Half back flankers (THE EASY OPTION to recruit!!)

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Carlton as a whole need to start protecting each other.
In the middle, coming out of defence and going into attach.
The modern game especially demands this type of action, with all the close attention and restricted inner space our players have lost the act of a bump and shepherd.
There is too much emphasis on releasing into space to receive and less of an act to protect.
This way we have a less of a chance of a error from a disposal, more of the carrier having a few more steps to balance and asses his options and the opposition is hopefully off balance and unable to commit to a second effort.

We won't win a flag until:
- We @#$%&! kick straight
- We stop letting the opposition get cheap bursts of goals when we should be burying them
- Juddy doesn't have to sit at the bottom of packs anymore
- We stop getting (SHOULDER!!!) injuries to key personnel
- We can get an uninterrupted season from Jarrad Waite
- We stop shitting our pants everytime we play Hawthorn

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#GUILTY

we shit our pants against Hawthorn cos they monster us in the guts.(Where the game is fought out won and lost)

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Yarran was always planned for a midfielder and Hughes says so here on draft day. Didn't have the tank initially. We all knew that.
That pick #40 was also selected as a midfielder. That went down pretty well, one would think.

Again, we can though never have enough quality midfielders, but they may just not be around at picks 16 and over.
We may just have to develop from within, or trade hard for them.

We all want to see flags Synbad, bud jumping up and down alone won't get us anywhere.
If we really have something to add to the mix, it won't come about from being disappointed on forums.