huge fan of hammer and his mark and kicking.
his leading and running into the right spaces
definitely think he has forward written all over him

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Synbad, if your apocalyptic and doomsday observations over the last few years had a strike rate mildly in the positive, I'd rate your hilarious attempt at sarcasm. As it stands, I'm still comfortable with the experiment of Hammer to FF

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so far he has PROVEN nothing except he has POTENTIAL.

throwing him around in alien positions is hardly going to help him.
he is best suited to a mobile leaping ruckman and not a forward.
i think its better to allow him to learn his craft on what he is suited to and not what we want him to be.

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Just curious - for the pro/anti hampson as a forward crowds...

if hampson were played forward in 2012...
- what would people consider to be a pass mark?
- what would it take for people consider it to be a successful move?

The blues making it to and winning a prelim


isnt a case of working with what we have and backing it? our fwd structure and success could come from a number of sources

The blues making it to and winning a prelim


isnt a case of working with what we have and backing it? our fwd structure and success could come from a number of sources

A pass mark would Hampson becoming an important component of a successful forward line that regularly kicks winning scores.

I like him as a ruckman but dont mind him as a forward. I dont mind the gamble on potential. Hope he can string games together.

Rare that he doesnt get his hands on the ball in a marking contest. Whether he marks or not we can still use that ability as a weapon.

How many ruckman have been turned into successful forwards?

P Salmon started more as a forward and became a ruckman, ditto Ottens.


I can't think of too many going the other way.

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If we have better options, no.
If your willing to try something new, yes.
We will see the positives/negatives by mid rounds.

Yes, and funnily enough the best of them ended up Thornton after Waite went down. Did everything I wanted from a support KP forward and everything a KP forward should do. If not, the next step is to try Casboult, who showed so much in the VFL finals the way he smashed packs and took contested marks. showed st least he was well and truly ready to be at least tried. At least they're KP players. Bugger this ruckman as KP forward stuff.

If you do try one Kruezer is a way better option than Hammer ever would be as he at least has some idea given he played there quite a bit in the u18s. Then you'd play him at CHF where he can use his mobility alot more rather than be stifled in the goalsquare. But we did try that a couple of years ago and gave it away after a couple of practiced matches. We worked out he was a much better ruckman and one average forward at the time. If he couldn't do it then Hammer has no hope. Maybe a couple more years experience might help so that might be worth a try again but not often ruckman make KP forwards given they're alot different roles. And we know he is alot be in the ruck. We have other options than to waste our best big man there.

Yep just like we did for Setanta

PS Synbad - the minor edit of your post is not to change the meaning but to highlight the parts that I am commenting on.

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Setanta's best spot was in the KP. He pinch-hit in the ruck. Same as it would be in reverse with a ruckman pinch-hitting forward. Both results are a the same, fill a hole but not much else. At least the forward can ruck around the ground in the ruck with freedom and take a few marks.

Wasnt Hampson a soccer player so who is to say he is either a ruckman or a forward

I thought he was picked as an athelete so therefore we can turn him into anything

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Hampson Goals : 2011 = 3 Career = 14.

(Just for those still arguing that he's shown great promise a forward).

He has played mostly as a ruckmen in his 44 games

He has had 35 shots on goal
14 17 and 4 oof

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+!

Interesting to see the guys who went on the qatar leg of the trip.....it was all about development and preparing those young and 'fringe' players for the next step

Here is my theory.

You need a chamption team not a team of champions. Everyone has a job to do.

Every player should be selected on the basis that on their best day they are in the top 3 in the competition in that position.

On every line you need 2 out of 3 players to be doing better than average, the 3rd player needs to be average. No one can be below par.

So its really simple to select a team

Forward is 2 smalls, 2 mediums, 2 talls
Back is 2 smalls, 2 mediums, 2 talls,
Rucks, 1 genuine ruckman, 1 ruckman able to rest forward
Everyone else is a Utility, some can push forward and others back.

This is the same formula used by every team.

You need at least one elite tall at each end, and one elite ruckman and a one elite midfielder.

You make your own luck and injuries will play a part.

So our team selects itself really.

Laidler Jamison Yarran (Yaz is elite, Jamo is very strong)

Duigan Henderson Scotland (No one elite)

Simpson Gibbs Lucas (Gibbs is elite)

Robinson Waite Garlett (Waite can be elite)

Kruezer Walker Betts (Kruezer is elite)

Warnock, Judd, Murphy (Judd & Murphy elite)

Russell, Bower, Thornton, Carazzo

Emg:
Ellard, Armfield, Joseph

Why all the negative about the forward line structure, l heard its better than it ha
s been in last 10years.

Hammer flags

2.5-3 goal avg. Would work out to be a 40-50goals.

If your playing a FF position all season thats what we need.