GARBAGE. If we are just a top 8 side, then we are going backwards!! As a wise man once said, "every side is 2 seasons away from a spoon or a flag" With the Saints and Dogs out of the picture, we were virtually presented with a top 4 spot on a platter this year.

Today was a shocker. Next week will be no better. Let's hope the 3 losses out of 4 that we will have had by next Sat night reflects our slump, and that we regroup for some quality Sept action.

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

PU = Players Used

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I wonder how many have played 3 games or less? Tuohy, Watson, Austin, Joseph?

Thanks for that. It changed quickly. We've been on 36 for a couple of weeks now and others have jumped us. Collingwood have been on 31 since I first checked.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

It's a real struggle to come to terms with that effort today.

Ratts made plenty of moves, few worked. Bower up forward rather than any of Hendo, Thornton or even Laidler is a real head scratcher. That's life. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

AJ was far from the worst today. Precedent dictates he gets dropped next week. You could find better candidates out there.

First time all year our defensive unit didn't work as a team. Duigan and Scotland can hold their head up high. The rest appeared to be more interested in their own man.

Lack of defensive pressure in the forward line was touted post game. I thought there was not a lot of it in the midfield. Our better players also the worst offenders in this regard. Tackles and shepherds were the worst I'd seen from a Carlton outfit in nigh on 6 years.

Do we miss Jamison or Hampson more? What a curious question...

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Journos are really struggling with our lot this year aren't they?

Although normally they say Matthew Warnock intead of Robbie Warnock so extra points for having the COMPLETELY WRONG PLAYER.

C'mon kk, even you must admit it - blaming a loss on one player alone is a joke.

The loss tonight had as much to do with Paul Bower as the rain did to our kicking skills under the Etihad roof.

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

Don't forget all the lost quarters Houlihan is responsible for

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Very disappointing game. Went into it with too many injured, ill or sore players it seems. I knew we were in trouble when our forward setup consisted of Scotland, Bower and Thornton.
Turnovers killed us, our disposal was very poor at times.
Murphy was great as usual.
Umpiring was terrible, we got a good run early and the WB got the good run in the second half. The number or 50 metre penalties paid was a joke, only a couple of them were there.
At half time the person picked out in the crowd to win the game to Ireland was sitting 2 rows in front of me.

We won the hitouts 62-34 today, but I'd be interested to see what the clearance stats were like quarter by quarter.

Here's the hitout breakdown for each quarter:

15-11
12-8
18-6
17-9

We won it every quarter, but we got smashed at clearances in the second half. Are our taps good enough? On first viewing and looking at the stats, I'd say no.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Been out for a few hours and still haven't calmed down.

Absolutely filthy at our effort today.

And only 2 weeks after our 'wake up call' against the Eagles.

So much for our system/pressure and depth. Getting seriously exposed right now.

Both WCE and the Bullies set themselves for us and we simply couldn't cope. Making up the numbers on current form.

So, so disappointing.

People can mitigate away but a season full of promise is fast going south. That's my feelings right now.

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We are on our way back...

Yeah, me too.

The Bulldogs had an obvious tactic at the stoppages today where they had a player running through at full pace from their defensive goalside. They won so many clearances to great effect by doing this regularly.

The worrying thing is that we seemed to do nothing about it and just kept getting picked off. I just reckon it was one of those days today...

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

Only thing is, we had 'one of those days' only 2 weeks ago.

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We are on our way back...

I remember looking at the draw and thinking we'd have a few dud games around this time of year. Mid season, tired players, usual run at Etihad.
I hadn't banked on us losing Jamo, Waite, Curnow though.

It's a pity we don't have a bye in the next few weeks.

Oddly enough I found a stat on Twitter saying that something like out of the last 6 teams to play Richmond every single one has lost the following week.

And what's your point?

You know, a 1 in 100 year storm event can actually happen twice in a year. Crazy, but it's true!

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

Playing Richmond is similar to having a bye that explains that stat....

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre

And Yarran needed to be moved off Dahlhaus, he towelled him.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

Quite a few things went wrong today, starting with selection. Oh well, sheit happens.

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.